
As of April 11, 2023, Notes is available to all writers and readers on Substack. Visit Notes.
We started Substack in 2017 because we wanted the internet to be better for writers and readers. We were dismayed with the clickbait and content farms, the listicles and liars, the cheap outrage and culture wars. We thought there could be something better if writers and readers were given more control and treated as a higher priority than advertisers, and if culture makers could find financial dignity without needing to sublimate themselves to attention games and corporate marketing budgets. “We believe that what you read matters,” we said, and we meant it.
So we set about building a system that fosters deep connections and quality over shallow engagement and dopamine hacks. We turned away from advertising and the attention economy and toward subscriptions and direct relationships. We believed that something beautiful could emerge from marrying the internet’s powers with a business model that puts writers and readers in charge, that rewards great work with money, and that protects the free press and free speech. We came to believe that this model—a subscription network—could form the basis of a new economic engine for culture.
There are more than 35 million active subscriptions to writers on Substack, including more than 2 million paid subscriptions. Readers have paid hundreds of millions of dollars to writers on the platform. There has been a Cambrian explosion of great writing, and writers have been saying (unprompted, we promise) that Substack has changed their lives. Encouraged by this early progress, we’ve become excited by the prospect of pushing the subscription network into new territory.
Notes: Post short-form content, recommend anything
In the coming days, we will start rolling out a way for writing, ideas, and discussion to travel through the Substack network. We’re calling this new product Notes.
In Notes, writers will be able to post short-form content and share ideas with each other and their readers. Like our Recommendations feature, Notes is designed to drive discovery across Substack. But while Recommendations lets writers promote publications, Notes will give them the ability to recommend almost anything—including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links. Our goal is to foster conversations that inspire, enlighten, and entertain, while giving writers a powerful growth channel as these interactions find new audiences.
Imagine
leaving a comment on ’s note about trends in science fiction, or sharing a quote from an amazing recipe developed by a little-known food writer who then gets a flood of subscriptions. Think of your favorite Substack economists nerding out in a deep thread about the latest jobs report, or and going back and forth about Major League Baseball’s Opening Day.While Notes may look like familiar social media feeds, the key difference is in what you don’t see. The Substack network runs on paid subscriptions, not ads. This changes everything.
The lifeblood of an ad-based social media feed is attention. In legacy social networks, people get rewarded for creating content that goes viral within the context of the feed, regardless of whether or not people value it, locking readers in a perpetual scroll. Almost all the attendant financial rewards then go to the owner of the platform.
By contrast, the lifeblood of a subscription network is the money paid to people who are doing worthy work within it. Here, people get rewarded for respecting the trust and attention of their audiences. The ultimate goal on this platform is to convert casual readers into paying subscribers. In this system, the vast majority of the financial rewards go to the creators of the content.
As we develop Notes, we will focus on building a system that lets people control the contours and boundaries of their subscription universe so that it is easy to keep trolls out and even easier to let valuable contributors in. The goal here is not to create a perfectly sanitized information environment, but to set the conditions for constructive discussion where there is enough common ground to seek understanding while holding onto the worthwhile tension needed for great art and new ideas. It won’t feel like the social media we know today.
Many of us have grown so used to talk of hellsites and doomscrolling—while wondering if social media is driving us mad—that we have forgotten that the internet can be good. Most of us have made friends on the internet, and some have even fallen in love online. It wasn’t that long ago when cancellations and brigading were unknown concepts. There was a time when social media was fun more than frightening. But there’s no going back to the time of Blogspot and LiveJournal. The goal cannot be to Make the Internet Great Again. The incumbents are entrenched, there are more than 6 billion smartphones in circulation, and the AI genie is out of the bottle. But we can go forward.
By changing the rules of engagement—by creating a new media universe with different laws of physics—the internet can be better than it has ever been. We have been living with the worldwide web for only three decades. In that time, most of our media business efforts have revolved around advertising. We see the potential for so much more. While we are reaching the limits of the era of social networks, there is so much rich territory to explore with subscription networks.
We at Substack intend to do a lot of exploring. And we hope you’ll come with us.
I have no idea how to use it, but I'm grateful for it already
It is like Twitter, but without all the algorithmic Bs behind and the absurd amount of ads driven algo manipulation.
It is a better, cleaner way of "social media". Lots of potential.
This. I don't know about you, but I prefer a more timeline orientated approach to the "timeline."
oriented
oriented=US English
orientated = UK English. 😀
Well, I'll be... I didn't know.
In the same vein, I always thought that people who said "preventative" were incorrect.
Just like UK English adds a syllable to the word aluminum--they spell it the same, but say it: a-lu-min-i-um. Go figure. I listen and hear people changing and making up language constantly. I love making up words, but saying things the wrong way is not the same...ie, how often have you heard people say: the end all and be all? Drives me nuts, as if ending came before being....aaarrgh
Actually Brits write, and say, aluminium
Quite so. It is odd: mostly, British English is simpler: obliged vs obligated, lift vs elevator, brace vs suspender. I think “oriented” is fairly standard in British English — I didn’t know it wasn't.
I lived in the UK for over 20 years. Orientated was the standard form when I arrive. Over the years, the internet has led to Brits picking up more Americanisms, like oriented. But I can't remember the last time I heard a Brit say aluminum instead of aluminium.
I always figured the use of Obliged or obligated was a matter of self or others. I am obliged, while others are obligated. But English was not a good subject for me in school, so. ..
NO, Really, my grades SUCKED !! lmao
Obliged = hoping you will do/say something.
Obligated = do it.
It is also interesting to note that US English has a strong element of selling in it and as a result words are changed to present a different impression. Let go is not as brutal as redundant or sacked. Read the media releases of all major corporations these days and the object is to use language in a way that obfuscates.
Fascinating subject and then origins probably lie in the ad world of the 60s and on.
"Braces"
It's officially aluminium everywhere in the world now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F_ztEv_v1Y
I hear ya!
The one that drives me nuts is this horrid phrase; "the exact same" instead of "exactly the same" which is ever so much more pleasant to the ear besides being grammatically correct.
And people using apostrophes when they're pluralizing a noun (ie "apostrophe's"). So stupid.
No need for either "exact" or "exactly" since that is implied by "same." If it wasn't the same it would be, at best, similar. It's odd that in a world where people seem to be trying to use fewer words they are, instead, adding useless words.
I don't quite agree here, although I get where you're coming from... redundant words are everywhere. But I'll argue that "same" can be vague, and close enough to "similar" so it sometimes warrants the specification of "exactly." (That said; exactness is often applied where it doesn't belong ie some things are "same-ish" but not literally or precisely.) Let me try an example :
Two dining tables, while differently sized and designed, can serve the *same* functions (ie eating meals, playing cards etc).
But this table that I bought from store X is *exactly the same* table that store Y is selling.
So "exactly" indicates that every detail and not just the generalities, are the same.
Yes, but if you wrote "can serve the exact same functions" I can't see how that is different from "can serve the same functions." I don't agree that same can (or perhaps I should say "should") be vague. Something is either the same as something else or it isn't. However, in a world where "literally" is now used primarily for effect, rather than meaning, I suppose "exact same" is fine; at least it's redundant, rather than wrong.
What about the word Resume' ? My writing of several test resume's resumes. lol Yep there is a reason they say English is the hardest language to learn, ... because it often makes so little sense.
Good one, yes!
Similar to "read" (present tense) and "read" (past tense) yet we have "lead" (present) but "led" (past). No sense at all!
The plural of Lice is Louse ..... yet the plural of Mouse is Mice. ARGH !! lol there really are so many it boggles the mind. In school the three R's made no sense, ..... but the three 2's was a close second. lol
You have it wrong. “Same” means “Same”, identical, no need for exact or exactly. “Similar” on the other hand means it is Similar but not the same as in “like”, Ann’s cat is similar to Janes’ or Ann’s cat is like Janes’ cat.
And they randomly throw in the apostrophes for some words that end in "S" and not for others.
They make the work possessive instead of plural. You see that everywhere now. Drives me nuts.
Even "exactly the same" seems redundant. If it's the same, it's the same. No real need for "exactly."
Sometimes it's legit to "put a fine point to it."
Technically you're right, but I think that "same" is in the more vague category of definers. Did you see my other responses on this... I don't want to repeat them.
It's the other way round. Americans left out a letter from the original British word. You may want to read up on the history - apparently it started with a typo.
I can see how ending all can be the prelude to being all. Slaying every one of your competitors, for example, makes you the whole thing.
But isn't saying Aluminium rather the same as spelling Nucular ? lol
What gets me is the use of "I" as an object. Funny when Dame Edna says, "s'cuse I" but dreadful when routinely misused (seemingly) EVERYWHERE else. It's worse than all caps for emphasis ;-)
thank you! I so often wonder, "does this bother anyone else or is it just I (whoops, me :-)? " I'm not overly focused on grammar but it's become so common and drives me nuts!
Can you give another example of this?
I find it so ubiquitous as to be unnoticed by most ... listen for "look at this picture of my friend and I" and variations thereof via newsreaders and such. I think this comes, in part, from a reticence to not wanting to sound egotistical through overuse of "I" when in fact, "I" and "me" are identical except for grammatically wfering to that ego as subject vs object in a sentence. Perhaps songwriting has not helped as grammar goes out the window for effect and resonance with the music ;-) (edited for typos!)
Oh, yes... this one is top of my own list... "older than me" and the like. As I've pointed out to so many, you wouldn't say "older than me am"!
“Preventative” is also widely used in the US medical field, and have seen it used in procedures manuals (ISO9000, for example).
Yes, I found out that both are legitimate...
Boy was I dumb to miss your point on this. Now I see it; the 'cy' suffixes are un-grammatical, right?
I'm not getting your point here.
All four words have their places, do they not?
Just re-read this thread. Staid Widow is right; I think the 'cy' ending in both cases is incorrect.
How do you say “orienteering” in UK English??
Orienteering is a form of outdoor exploration — is there another meaning?
situatated.
orientationalated
Misunderestimated.
Discombobulatated.
Antidisestablishmentarianned
decentralized
Your toxoplasmosis got me... (subscribed)
Courtesy of George W Bush 😀
Underestimated
I often wonder, ... Does "Debunked" really mean Unbunked ? and what is Bunked ? lol
Looking forward to Notes. I'm tired of Elon Musk's antics. I want to remove myself from the Twitter platform altogether.
ohh please, it (Notes) is twitter! and you are too deluded by their promises to see it clearly.
I agree. The way it's arranged is a bit confusing.
I prefer a timeline oriented approach to the “timeline” too.
"As we develop Notes, we will focus on building a system that lets people control the contours and boundaries of their subscription universe so that it is easy to keep trolls out and even easier to let valuable contributors in."
aside from software glitches in the user interface, the biggest problem with substack is that there is no block/mute function (for non-admins).
some of the comments sections for big substack writers like greenwald and taibbi are full of kooks, trolls and botz.
many high visibility substack writers are incapable of properly managing their comments sections, or just unwilling to do so, allowing their comments sections to fill up with toxic mental sewage.
there is little or no transparency in how the "admins" for any given [substack account] manage their block/mute functions when they are used. for greenwald, taibbi, freddie deboer, and sasha stone, it appears that there is a pattern of capricious banning of readers that are critical of their mismanagement of their comments sections (ironic given the "free speech" blather that such writers use to gain subscribers). my guess is that substack has some low-wage employees that they hire out to tabbi and other big writers to ban critics of their mismanaged comments sections. again: irony.
that substack is willing to invest in creating a whole new feature while neglecting to implement a basic function like block/mute (for non-admins) first is appalling.
correction/update
substack now has a non-admin block feature. it seems to have showed up unannounced alongside the new Notes feature.
I'm going to block "sunset" as a test.
I blocked "sunset" but there was no apparently, immediate effect. maybe "subset" will go away completely after I log off and back on.
I'll check the substack help center and see if there is any documentation.
Nope. Aaaaaaargh.
According to the substack tech documentation*, their new non-admin "block" does not actually block much of anything in the comments sections under regular posts, only Notes.
In comments under regular posts (from a third party), the block function still allows blocker and blockee to see each others' comment, but it does stop the blocked account from quoting blockee's name in a comment and it stops the bloked account from seeing he blockee's profile.
Blocking an account does keep them off your profile and thus your posts.
But not comments on someone else's posts.
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* https://support.substack.com/hc/en-us/articles/14739169102740-How-do-I-block-someone-on-Substack-Notes-
excerpt:
Blocking someone on Substack Notes will hide that person's notes in your Notes space and prevent you from seeing any of their replies on your notes.
It will also prevent them from:
Viewing your notes and your Substack profile
Mentioning you in a note or comment
Subscribing to your publication
...
https://support.substack.com/hc/en-us/articles/14739169102740-How-do-I-block-someone-on-Substack-Notes-
you are presumably an alias of the SPAMMER:
"re: https://substack.com/profile/58393452-gptalpha
please ban this appalling SPAMMER "
reported:
"please ban this abusive, deranged kook"
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT. TROLL
Seems they have most enthusiastically proven your point at that !! lol That said, I do like having a block function like in Disqus forums, that way I no longer need to even see such nonsense. I guess the difference is whether one is merely a reader or a content creator. If a content creator Blocks someone, then they can no longer comment ? I don't know how that works. But if a reader blocks another reader, then the comments of the Blocked are no longer visible, only to the person who blocked it, while everyone else can still see their ludicrous spew. I don't use a reader to reader Block , very often, but as a particular site gets overrun by blatant stupidity, it becomes increasingly handy. Usually a short time before bailing on the site entirely. Gateway Pundit comes to mind. At times I click a link that is posted elsewhere and it takes me back there, then reading the comments reminds my quickly of the reason why I stay away. lol
I do think something needs to be worked in to collapse side conversations that go on and on that usually have nothing to do with the piece. Or just reminders to try to stay on topic or just generally try to contribute and not hog up all the comment space.
reported:
"please ban this abusive, deranged kook"
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT, AGAIN. TR0LL
YES please let me remove content from my feed I don’t care about. I like some random stuff but I would like to opt-out of some people (not bots, just topics I don’t care about). That would give me more space to see people/topics/recs from people I DO like.
reported:
"re: https://substack.com/profile/58393452-gptalpha
please ban this appalling SPAMMER "
I felt the same. Twitter, but good.
Sundance of The Conservative Treehouse has made a pretty good case that Twatter is so costly to run that it couldn't have possibly supported itself without gov't funancial support. And there were all kinds of backdoors and Intel community intrusions, funded by You Know Who.
Twatter probably sprung from the same loin as Farcebook, ... DOD, CIA.
This is a great take! originally tumblr came to mind
Substack Notes competes with Twitter only at the margins.
Twitter's over reaction is paranoid. If a writer wants reach they'll still need to post on Twitter etc.
For NOW anyway. It is bound to change.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Twitter has become a pay-to-win platform.
I pay. I don't win.
If you're paying your replies are 'bumped' first over non-paying users.
No. That’s what’s supposed to be happening. It is not what is actual happening. Or, at least it is not what’s actually happening to my replies.
will it be available in the web browser client??
It has so much potential! Eager to start the chat =)
Yazzz!!! I've been asking for this!! Thank you!! Can you also add Bitchute and Odysee as imbeddible videos as well! Thank you all sooo moooch!! LOOOV!
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Mastodon has no algorithm. It's feeds are strictly time-based, and if you want to dig up an old post, you have to search for it.
The two things holding it back are: 1) having to find the server you want to sign up with and 2) it's not exactly the prettiest interface around.
In fact, I wonder if Substack will be using part or all of Mastodon's code base (legally, of course, not illegally like Trump's Truth Social).
Yes, agreed: So many of us are searching and waiting for an alternative to digital discourse - this sort of thing needs to be experimented around and through, and we Substack writers will be there to do it!
Damn straight! My goodness, so many other sites have turned into a cesspool. I'd love a built-in way to build a more active network.
agree with you and thanks for a great newsletter also, PJ !
The tricky part is expanding a platform, until it gets very popular, while still remaining off the bot/troll radar. It seems inevitable that any widely used platform, has a Timer on it's level of unbearable. As Creators reach expands, so also does the risk of infestation. Then what? On to the next? It seems like an inevitable cycle, almost a doom loop.
But damn it, it will be so friggin sublime, .... while it lasts.
Thank you so much! Just subscribed to yours too- glad to be connected :) :)
Excellent video!! Thank you for posting! I'd never have found you other wise!
That’s how I’m feeling too. We’re just here for the awesome updates
When does it go live?!
“In the coming days, we will start rolling out a way for writing, ideas, and discussion to travel through the Substack network. We’re calling this new product Notes.”
I hope it’s a bit easier than this. I made one comment. Someone liked it and someone replied to it. When I click the notification it just brings me back to the original thread. I have no idea where in the thread or comments mine lies.
That happens to me on Substack often, .... but not always. I will click the notification and it takes me to the response, then when I click the "Return To Thread" link, it will take me right to where my original comment lives and I can refresh my memory on what it was I previously said, so that I know how to reply, as a lot of times, someone's reply will have no indication of what I had said prior. Other times when I click the "Return To Thread, it just leaves me at the very top of the page. I either skip the scrollfest and reply blindly, or just click out in aggravation without responding at all. I don't know what the glitch is, but it is not constant.
yes, many bugs, there are on Substack. ;-)
yep, the notification link glitch ("Return to thread"?) is appalling and ridiculous.
substack has never been very good software, at least from the user interface perspective. but neither are most (all?) other social media platforms, including facebook and twitter. in some ways 1990s character-mode bulletin board software was better, such as handling large complex subthreads.
We won’t know until it’s rolled out “in the coming days”.
The days keep coming, and coming, and going ... from Apr 5 it's almost a week. Wait a minute, it's been a week!
But also: a week is "made of" seven days, so ... in the coming days still applies. :)
is "fluidity" a "trickle down" feature??? lots of excrement on twschitter
Precisely. As I always say “To be grateful is to be great full (as in greatly full) (as in full of gratefulness (not food)).”
Not my best quote.
Haha. I like it! Especially as you tried to explain it! 💚
You’ll find more where that came from at deardante.com Heather. Much more indeed.
Better quotes can be found at deardante.com
Many thanks, Mr France.
😆
That's understandable. Substack only seems to be interested in the WRITERS. They don't give a damn about the READERS. I had given up on trying to learn more about using Substack when I decided to look elsewhere for the information that should be supplied by Substack. I found it. Damn Substack for not providing information on how to use it.
Subscribe and read all you want. Thankfully you don't have to use the app. Personally I prefer the P2P approach. I send an email. Reader gets an email. And if they want to participate they either reply or comment and they are a part of the community.
Can you tell me how to stop the emails without canceling my subscriptions? I’m getting flooded. I like to scan the app for my favorite writers and read the articles in the app.
I'm in exactly the same place as you. I wanted to love substack, but I don't want emails. Any emails. If it just collected everything into my "inbox" on the website where I could go each day or whenever I feel like it and read through new items, that would be perfect.
But inexplicably they don't seem to want users who want that sort of system. I haven't figured out why honestly. How does forcing users to accept emails from them help? Maybe they're planning on introducing email ads one day? Boggles the mind.
You can turn off email notifications and have app-only notifications.
Please describe precisely how to do that. I've tried and what happens is that the subscription is canceled. I want the subscription. I just don't want the emails. TIA
look for the "Mute thread" button in your email notification from substack (as seen in a "reply" to a comment you made).
there might be more detailed documentation in the substack help, but I have no looked for it yet.
This is what I see when logged into substack in a browser on windows10:
https://substack.com/settings
Notifications
Newsletter delivery
How would you like to receive new posts from your subscriptions?
Smart notifications (Get notified in app or email, not both)
...
I went to my iphone and computer settings and then to the Notifications. I turned off Notifications for Substack. That may have solved the problem.
Thanks. I selected Smart Notifications, but how do you select “in app”, not email? Nothing else appeared.
Not sure. I’m testing it on my iPad, in the app, so if you respond, I’ll see what happens.
If you select “mute thread” I suspect that only the current thread is muted and not the general emails.
Maybe have a dedicated email for all subscriptions.
Email newsletters tend to hit your email inbox. That’s the great thing about it. There’s no central repository to go down and take all of the words with it. Delivering posts into peoples inboxes guarantees they live on beyond the platform. If you don’t want everything in your inbox, you can set emails from Substack to automatically go into a folder.
I haven't yet had that problem with Substack, although I have it with others. I kept posting negative comments on every one of their sites (including YouTube), and they finally got the message. It wasn't easy, though.
Take this tactic for a test drive. In the email, scroll to the bottom and Unsubscribe. THEN, go to substack account and look at all your subs, .... it will still be there. You have only unsubed from the notifications, not the actual content creator.
Substack doesn't tell new or prospective READERS what Substack is all about, what it contains, how to navigate it, or how to use it. Other than that, it's fine.
Yes, readers sometimes seem to be forgotten in the Substack dev department. I'm concerned that readers who subscribe to Substack publications for work, and who don't give a damn about content creators or socials will be turned away from professional newsletters if Substack becomes known as a social network. I'm quite concerned about this.
In what areas do you feel like Substack is neglecting readers? What should they be doing? I ask because it seems to work fine for me. I find stuff I want to read. I read it. What other service should I expect them to provide?
John, Substack does a great job with B2C readers (ordinary consumers who are reading for leisure and pleasure), and a particularly excellent job for readers who are interested in writing and creating content of their own; people who know and love the Substack universe.
Where I worry is that readers of B2B publications, who are not interested in content creation or writing, might be alienated by Notes. Many of the most financially successful publications (e.g. investment publications) exist for readers who subscribe to get professional information for work purposes. These are generally the readers who are willing to pay more for their subscriptions. We need to look after these professionals as well as people who read for leisure and who are here to socialise.
That’s a fair point. All of the Substack publications are pretty siloed though. Things don’t just organically pop up in your feed unless you’re actively searching for a topic or have previously subscribed to that newsletter. Of course, Notes may change that if it introduces a public feed, but I think they’ll keep things isolated. I could be wrong though. Have you seen Notes in the wild?
I haven't seen notes yet, looking forward to it though.
I guess you're just smarter than the rest of us.
Actually, YOU, as the writer, are supposed explain all of that in your welcome email.
I think this side of Substack - finding like minded quality contributors - could be improved a lot too, but have patience.
Another function I would like is to be able to promote my own substack to my contacts list, automatically.
That would be a really good idea for sure. The 'how to use it as a reader' would be smart. Make that happen, substack?
💯😂
I think those are the sentiments of most writers here. I'm extremely grateful, even though I'm only just getting around to looking at what Notes is. I've used social media so sparingly that I'm somewhat daunted...
I wouldn't be able to use Twitter, Parler, or any other similar app without a slow, plodding process... So this is doubly confusing for me... But I must add adventurous and thrilling.
I just heard about it today and this made me sign up for a substack finally. I’ve been wanting to get a Tw_ttr alternative and I think this might be it, hopefully.
Someone said that to Oppenheimer.
As long as we can maintain a good overview, I'm all for new features...
I'd love a way to banish this sort of thing, for me, forever.
Annoying spam comments, need ability to be downvoted, blocked, reported.
next to "LIKE" and "REPLY":
click on the three dots "..." and then "Report comment"
substack definitely needs a "block user" function that can be used by non-admins.
there are lots of kooks, tr0llz and b0tz that writers like greenwald, taibbi, bari weiss and others allow to pollute their comments sections.
reported:
"re: https://substack.com/profile/58393452-gptalpha
please ban the above spammer"
This sounds like an exciting way to expand our audience! I just hope it doesn’t feel like another social network and/or attract people who mostly want to use it that way. I love that Substack is for writers and for people who want to discover good writing. Let’s keep it that way!
I don't mind that Substack are thinking about alternative ways to connect and discover but I don't want the platform to think endlessly increasing features is sustainable. The money could be better spent elsewhere. Too many places get bloated and complicated. The best writing tools I have found were the minimalistic ones.
I'd also like to be able to edit a post on my phone. I'd like them to fix that first. ;-)
Yeah feature bloat is a thing to be wary of. I'm cautiously optimistic on Notes, but as you say the minimalist nature of Substack is where it shines for me.
I know, right! How can Substack afford to be constantly shipping new features every month? I worry that the whole platform will fold because it can't be financially sustainable to keep developing the features at this rate.
Apart from audio of course. I’d love to see audio posting implemented in notes. ;-)
We'll see. Let's hope it isn't just another way to create noise threads. If it's done well it could be a valuable substitute for twitter, that's gotten so sucky.
I guess I'm in a distinct minority, I like Twitter & have found it fine lately. (I used to not engage there at all, it just seemed like people shouting at each other, with heavy-handed censorship. It's still people shouting at each other, but I'm finding more worthwhile discourse and less censorship than previously. (It may be inaccurate, but my personal impression is that more moderates are participating now, vs just the extremes.)
I agree with your concerns about noise here; Substack already generates way too much noise for my liking. I'm actually *NOT* subscribing to people here because I don't want yet more streams of every-other-minute updates in my inbox :-/
It's a valuable platform, but this might actually make it less so for me :-(
I never engaged with the loudmouths on TW. I completely blanked them out actually. No politics at all, thank you very much! What I noticed recently is how unwieldy the platform has got. Trouble seeing posts from people I interact with, lots of stuff coming from folks I do not follow... something going on with the algorithm that makes the experience less effective. Frustrating.
I too use Twitter a lot. It's mostly read, seldom write, for me. Broadcasting to everybody is not for me.
There are ways to control what you get on Twitter. You are not limited to the algorithmic feed, which, in my view, is not always great. They have mechanisms, and you can build them, to get more like what you want, for a little effort. The search API, lists, and you host your own menu of links are worth looking at if you didn't already.
Have you considered Mastodon? That has a great writing community.
I'm on Mastodon constant hassle with signing in, so I haven't been checking in much. Please leave a trail to the writers hut Documentally if you please 😊
I never have to sign in to Mastodon as my browser remembers it. I wonder if you can do the same. And in regards to finding the writers. Mastodon is big on hashtags. They are the best way for discovery. #Writing and #Writingcommunity will lead to interesting people and projects. Good luck!
allowing a browser to store login credentials is very bad from an information security perspective. very, very bad. don't do it.
It’s stored in my password manager and my threat level is not what it used to be. Every single one of the platforms I use has a different password and so remembering would be very difficult.
ok, so when you said "my browser remembers it", you really mean your password manager remembers it, via a browser add-in or something like that.
as you probably know, security software isn't always secure, including password managers that get hacked.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/password-manager-hacks
There is a trade of isn't there. If you want to use the internet you run the risk of losing data. Nothing online is safe. 2fa goes some way but if you don't want to get hacked or have your data stolen you need to live off grid in the woods and only converse face to face out of sight of spy satellites. I've demoed how rot send an email 'securely' with air gapped prions at each end and a version of the banned 1998 PGP plus veracrypt. Out of sight of laser and other vibration mics. Just to show what a pain it is. But it's not worth it is it? I'd rather have these conversations, make these connections and take the risk.
Eat lots of beans in the wilderness, send smoke signals.
I found it impossible to navigate.
Agree. I'm excited for this, but also feel wary. The lack of ads is obviously the major win here. I hope this is great for discoverability. But I also like the sort of concise nature of how things are at the moment. I subscribe to people, they post, I read said posts. It's minimalist and finite each week. That's my choice of course, so I wouldn't even have to use Notes, but what I'd love for it to do well is allow writers and readers to better discover each other. That, for me, should be the focus and not "The ultimate goal on this platform is to convert casual readers into paying subscribers."
Yes Nathan, I agree connect and collaboration is the way to go. I just collaborated with a writer Mark Dolan on my Sports article. Posted Tuesday. Free to paid initiatives ah what can I say ...ani't got a lot of shekels jingling in my pocket, so kinda gotta mine the 'fee for product' ground. There is considerable 'effort' and cost involved after all
That's my concern as well. We'll have to see how this plays out.
Well said!
Totally agree with you, Liz!
Some trepidation that this will create incentives for shallower and more viral content.
Did anyone really enjoy reading the chats of their favorite writers? They would use the chat to repost their newsletters. It made me wonder and now I'm officially confused. I wanted to get away from how cringe LinkedIn posts felt those micro text attention seeking things.
Not a fan of the chat. I'd rather comments be under article if about article. I'm hopeful for notes since it goes beyond my subs.
Yes those elusive comments Andy, would be nice to have more, and Chats going nowhere or polls either.
So the thing is I've actually been incentivized to post my posts on LinkedIn because of this, where I have a wider audience and can directly talk about something not directly related to the latest hiring. My posts on LinkedIn become a refutal of new hire and latest project posts.
My #s good on LinkedIn as well but agree same about the job theme glut. I'm not sure to proceed there Frosti
I feel the same way. I've read a few chats, but I'm just not interested in being always plugged in.
Yes, that's pretty much exactly how I feel too. Garrett
Now Substack has comments, threads, chat, and notes. Definitely overlapping in some ways. As long as people aren't annoying, I can see Notes as an overall positive.
Agree. The overlap could also be a bit difficult for readers to navigate. I also felt a bit undecided at times as to when to use Threads and when to use Chat...
Me too. One thing for me is that my readers prefer email over the app. When they migrate to the app, they read my newsletter less often. That gets me thinking that maybe my next step is no to chat but yes to threads. Threads might work better than having comments open on posts.
Exactly!
I have the same fears.
Me, too. Why mess with a good thing?
Or incents the scraping of user data and related abuses: https://tompendergast.substack.com/p/the-pirates-are-coming-for-substack
The aim of notes (from what I gather) is to improve communication with your existing audience, not to increase your discoverability. If it stays that way then content won't aim to be clickabaity.
The key is not to clutter one's desktop with too many notes
Ah gosh, my audience LOVES that I only communicate with them once per week. That is literally my edge over my competitors and my most important promise to my readers.
The aim is absolutely to increase discoverability. A part of the post says, "Like our Recommendations feature, Notes is designed to drive discovery across Substack"
I can definitely see that being an issue. We'll have to see what it looks like as it rolls out.
I remain hopeful, but I agree. Time will tell, I suppose.
This point irks me slightly: "The ultimate goal on this platform is to convert casual readers into paying subscribers. In this system, the vast majority of the financial rewards go to the creators of the content."
I get that it's obviously great for those with paid subs, and for the owners of Substack to get the slice too, but I don't want to feel that this is "the ultimate goal". The ultimate goal, in my opinion, should be about providing and sustaining a place for writers to write and readers (and writers) to read, and for both to discover each other.
Feel the same way, Andrew.
Agreed. It's not just advertising that is toxic. It's the incentives in the attention economy it creates that fundamentally feels gamified and fake. But if substack tells me that doing chat increases paid revenue by 19% or whatever and notes does impact growth. I'll essentially be forced to do them.
I've been on social media long enough to know that Substack being a Twitter killer is absurd. If I wanted to write a note, I'd be posting on Post news. On the other hand, substack needs to increase its audience. Back in the day Medium also tried micro content.
The thing I love most about substack are those 15 minute reads. Perhaps they have data on read completion rates in the app that forces them to realize micro content is necessary on mobile. I would be curious to know how they decided to launch such a product. If in app recommendations aren't algorithmic, what are they?
There could be some additional value in reaching more people that are interested in the specific content here on Substack. Beyond the search function getting discovered is hard - even if the content is meaningful.
So for new joiners, it might be an asset to be able to share content-based snippets and ultimately get a wider reach
Precisely. To me, it just seems like added clutter.
Same thoughts, which seemed to be echoed by a lot here.
Truly incredible to think that what once was a mostly solitary endeavor, a newsletter, has now become the most connected form of navigating modern discourse. Great work, Substack! Excited to see how Notes improves our experience.
Oh, how newsletters have changed. I grew up in a family business that published ink and paper newsletters (40 different ones each month). My dad would be flabbergasted if he saw newsletters today. Exciting times.
Indeed. But in a way Substack kind of reminds me of the old zines, you know, rough and ready ones, often on a niche topic, but not always. And rough and ready typography and artwork. LOL
Churned out on an old hand operated duplicator lol
YES! Chortle. Using a gestetner was like glue-sniffing but legal 😂
For sure! Quality may very. And it's a way for people to learn how to hone their message which is nice.
I'm in. I'm willing to try everything they come up with. It can only get better as they figure things out. I'm not very techie, so I like to jump on board and figure things out early.
I'm curious how it'll work myself. But like you said, Ben, I'm willing to figure it out.
ditto
Sameo Ben
exactly
That's so cool. Completely forgotten about the newsletters that came through the letterbox. Pretty sure we used to subscribe to a couple back in the day.
Our auto shop actually has a pretty great one! It has fun history and geography facts and cookie recipes!
Cookie recipes! Yes, right up my alley. Ha!
Who doesn't love cookies?!
I still publish them the old-fashioned way. It is in my DNA. Getting ready to launch one later this year about career management. I will still be on Substack though.
That’s so cool, Corrie! They sure have changed. I think people will continue to see the value in forums like this. It’s a best of both worlds type thing.
I'm confused. How is this different from chat? Also, are Notes opt-in? I don't want to be getting that in my inbox feed or get notifications when Notes are posted. Are there more technical details somewhere?
Hey Brian, where Chat is a tool to talk privately with your subscribers, Notes is public and a way to get your work in front of more readers. More details in the coming days.
Thanks Katie! I had a lot of the same questions.
Thank you Katie for the clarification 👍
Hi Katie, I'm reading all these comments trying to understand where your notes go. Do they appear in my subscribers' email, like my newsletter? I promised my subscribers no more than one email a week, no ads, and no promotions or partnerships. So I cannot post notes that would clog their inboxes.
I see, so it's a public note that people can find in the Explore section? That sounds interesting, especially for those of us who right on politics or current events. Being able to react and post updates quickly can't hurt!
I don't think it matters what subject you write on. If you can send a message to someone you follow and they get it right away, that's a big plus, isn't it?
Oh, definitely. I just mean that when you're trying to raise awareness about protest movements, you have to be able to respond quickly to changes. It's hard to do that on a bi-weekly posting schedule, which is what I can manage for longer form posts.
Notes might make it easier, that's all.
Sounds great Katie 😊
Good to hear. Looking forward to the info.
Thanks, Katie.
You only see notes if you go into the new notes icon, as far as I know. So no, you won't get pop ups as with chats, and you won't get an email notification.
i can't see a Notes icon. Presumably it's not available yet?
See the screen shot at the bottom of the email newsletter, new icon, has a little red dot to show you where it will appear.
Oh yes. Thanks, Caz
“In the coming days, we will start rolling out a way for writing, ideas, and discussion to travel through the Substack network. We’re calling this new product Notes.”
Cheers, Jim
You as well Terry.
I was about to subscribe to yours and discovered I already am!
No hang on, I only just have. Kindle doing strange things! I was attracted by your education article. I'm of the same opinion on the issues you discuss.
Same here
Thank you, squire. I look forward to future discussions. Going back to sleep now as it's stupid o'clock where I live 😃
It's not in the app yet, try desktop, or wait for next announcement.
Is it starting today?
from what I can gather, it's going to be in the coming days
I look forward to finding new ways to share my wisdom and genius.
Great comment.
What is the purpose of life, Dante?
(is it food? it is, right?)
A great question - the kind I answer with great knowledge and wisdom at deardante.com
Looks good to me, squire. I've just subscribed!
Many thanks, new fan.
🙂
I use the old way to do this: Pithy comments in the Reader Comments.
(Sometimes pithy).
I wish I could get more comments of my stories. https://benwoestenburg.substack.com/about (Sometimes you gotta push yourself.)
I (of course) wrote an article just on Reader Comments. It made my day when this article ... generated a lot of reader comments.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/in-praise-of-reader-comments
hi, bill. i JUST joined substack, awaiting new NOTES feature, primarily.
i've HAD IT with twitter (and every other social media platform out there. i've tried em all!) ...
just read this post of yours and enjoyed it. i've never once left a reader comment anywhere, typically because most sites require a login/membership to do so.
being here on substack may end up getting me thinking about longer-form writing.
maybe.
i'm no writer, but i've made some great twitter posts (many of which have resulted in my being locked out, AGAIN).
thx for your food for thought.
c
The Notes feature might be very interesting. If it grows users and subscribers on Substack, that should help me (as I am trying to convert about 2 to 3 percent of my free subscribers to paid subscribers). That's not many. I want to go from "3 percent paid" to "5 percent paid."
Now we have Twitter vs. Substack ...
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/twitter-vs-substack
LOL
Hey there Dante, I'd like to pair my wisdom with your genus...love the ,'pensive guy' with a pipe pic
I’ve been a journalist for 25 years with daily bylines for hundreds of outlets. I’ve jumped on to this platform to try and finally write for myself. I hope to work my way around it over time!
Exactly my experience and how I am feeling, Suzanne. This is how I am approaching this space as well!
This space is amazing for whatever it is you want to share with people. It's easy to figure out and understand, even for an old dinosaur like me. I don't do the journalism thing, but I follow quite a few. I'm a gonna go check out what you both have to offer! Probably subscribing.
Nice to know Suzanne
There are so many questions people have which are not being answered; finally some independent journalism is happening.
3 questions:
1) Have you, or do you have plans to, ramp up your moderation team with the introduction of this new product?
2) To what degree will notes from Substacks I don't follow be recommended to me?
3) Can you elaborate a bit on if this is a mobile-first product or if it will be available through the browser as well?
You can write about topics that interest you ... or topics you feel are neglected or taboo in corporate newsrooms. No editor can reject your story idea. I wouldn't last one week back at a real newspaper. Every article I pitched would be rejected and I'd be run off as a dangerous purveyor of disinformation. What Substack has really done is allow independent-thinking journalists to get around the "gatekeepers of the news." Since there are now 35 million Substack subscribers, readers clearly like this innovation.
thats not what I am asking, but a great overview of why Substack matters.
I hope Substack doesn't "ramp up its moderation team" ... if you are referencing the army of "content moderators" that have been censoring my posts for three years at Facebook. I've now got a good number of people who comment at my site and I've only had to delete one poster who made comments I thought were over the top or offensive. Most smart people ... make smart and interesting comments.
You know the Mark Twain quote "a lie travels around the globe while the truth is putting on its shoes."? What I am asking here is, given that this is a product where algorithmic recommendations are going to suggest content, we've seen time and time again over the last 15 years online that this story doesn't end well without moderation.
I respectfully disagree. 'Tis a slippery slope once you start "moderating" politically incorrect content. I'm old-fashioned. You can counter or defeat lies with smart rebuttals to same.
P.S. This would be a good topic for a Substack article!
I’d really like an answer to Caithryn Rintoul’s three questions.
Help! Or should I use OMG to pretend I’m hip and happening. I’m still just consuming content rather than creating it but hope to dip my toes in soon. Could I suggest that old acronym KISS?
Great question about moderation.
Noted.
I've been testing it for the past couple of weeks and it's kinda like the Tiramisu scene in 'Sleepless in Seattle.' Trust me, you'll love it.
NOTES is fifty-five times better than Twitter!!
I was just thinking to myself, “Holy shit, Substack just made Twitter irrelevant!”
hi, chris.
i JUST joined substack, primarily for the NOTES feature coming soon.
i'm fed up with twitter censorship, and i dislike every other social media platform i've tried (gettr, parler, minds, truth social, gab, et al), so here i am, fingers crossed for something great.
that being said, substack is not gonna make twitter irrelevant. their user base is MASSIVE, and they are the de facto news hub for planet earth.
no matter. there are things other than news, and i look forward to seeing great stuff here.
c
Have you tried it, Jean? I thought it hadn't been rolled out yet.
Yes, I have been posting on NOTES in an early trial version. Substack releases NOTHING that has not been tested, tested, tested, improved, tested, refined, tested, enhanced, tested and bedazzeled. It's been an amazing experience.
Great! Thanks for replying. I'm really looking fwd to trying it myself. Do you know what the timescale is perchance?
Alas, I don't know, Terry, but NOTES is awesome!
That's great to know! I'm looking forward to trying it out. Rapid fire protest info, coming to a Substack near you!
Does it give email alerts? I don't want to spam the heck out of my subscribers, the poor dears.
😂🙂
Thanks, Jean 🙂
Great to know. Looking forward to trying it out.
that's very precise! 😂🙂
Ahh 😌
a) do we know this for a fact or is this rumor?
b) can one “steal” opensource computer code? serious question, as i don't know.
Really stoked to let people know quickly which gas station has the best coffee.
If you’re in Texas the answer (to everything gas station related) is of course Bucees.
This is more in line what how I think I will use it. Take a great picture but want to put in some notes on it, comes into notes. Or a good quote while you’re reading with some commentary.. But will this hinder ‘deeper’ writing? I wonder..
From what I gathered Substack’s goal is to basically be a social media company without all the negative data and ad issues. So it makes sense they’d add a function like this.
Would like to think most of us here migrated from twitter threads basically into deeper writing, but turning it into another scrolling platform might defeat the purpose for me.
Don’t like it. I don’t want Substack to be a twitter substitute, whether it’s funded by ads or subscriptions.
I'm willing to wait til it actually officially drops, and I get an opportunity to "test-drive" it. It may be less of a "Twitter substitute" than you're fearing, funded by whatever. But, that's just me...........apparently.
This worries me. Feels like a dumbing down of a great medium in order to multiply “contact.” Too much like every other social media feed. Bummer.
Oo this sounds great Substack team. I’m maybe using chat a little like this but we’ll see 💬✨☺️
And, it may be an element more likely to be used by those (me for one) who don't/haven't yet used the chat function! We'll see!
Aren’t Notes just short posts? In other words, can’t we already do this? I don’t want my subscribers to get sick of me.
I guess with Notes the short posts won't flood your subscribers inboxes, although you can already do web only posts. Maybe it will just help keep your main site cleaner.
Even if we can already do this (short posts), Notes doesn't sound like something we'd want to clutter our Archived main page, so they wont (as short...or long posts do)....which is a completely different "can of worms" than your (certainly well-placed) concern about e-mailed posts to our subbies. "My subscribers get sick of me"?🛳That ship has sailed from my dock, Micheline!
This is one hell of a good idea and you just hooked me into using Substack more.
I'm a bit worried about the effect this will have on me as a writer. I used to publish in literary journals, which can take six months to read and accept an essay and six more months to publish it. I came to the internet wary of the pace of things, and found that Substack, while faster than literary mags, still allowed me to spend time thinking about what I want to say and composing it before saying it (in other words, writing). If growing on Substack will now require the much more constant, always-on, micro-communication that has been demanded of writers on other platforms, how much brain space will I need to spend on that? All of this is in service of the writing, and I am definitely worried that this development will make it harder to write, if easier to promote one's writing.
Anyways, I will try it of course, and I will aim to keep an open mind. But I definitely had a pit in my stomach reading the announcement.
Your point is well-taken, and the possible future scenario you describe has already been playing out for decades in the music world. Ultimately I chose the strategy of leaving social media commenting largely to the fans, with an occasional perusal and commentary by moi. Is it the best way? Maybe not. But it works for me.
Excellent way to put it. Substack is starting to break...
Excited to try this and connect to other writers!
Do we really need Substack Social Media? What I love about this space is that it doesn't feed the scrolling temptation. I've deleted all social media so that I don't waste time that way.
This.
I feel like I was already using Chat this way? I am a little concerned about feature bloat / losing the simplicity that makes Substack so great. I'm already annoyed by being alerted of "paid chat threads" for folks I am not a paid subscriber for. If you keep adding features we need more options to mute / opt out or this will become the same mess we are experiencing elsewhere.
Hey Sarah, where Chat is a tool to talk privately with your subscribers, Notes is public and a way to get your work in front of more readers. More details to come in the coming days.
Can you also explain the difference between Chats and Threads? I saw a post saying that Chat was the new Thread but I can still compose Threads. I am confused!
One difference I noticed is that in chats commenters can share photos. In discussion threads they cannot. I'm not sure of other differences. This is what I mean about feature bloat. When two things are so similar should they both exist? It's just confusing.
Ah didn’t realise that. There might also be something about where you can reply as in the app for chat but maybe not for threads ? I do agree with you. I love Substack but I’d like them to focus on their USP instead of trying to move too fast and become something else.
One difference is that threads go to a subscriber's email but chat doesn't - chat is app only.
So we will be seeing content from people we are not subscribed too? Sounds a lot like traditional social media to me.
This is one of my big questions too!
Second the point on paid subs cluttering up the chat feature - I’d like to delete these or archive so I can keep the chats I want to chat in at the top.
This is very interesting. I have a quite big following on Twitter but has started to be fed up with all the trolls and bad tone, and it is not fun anymore knowing that the only way to grow is to participate in different fights and arguments. I would like to get an audience in something creative and good. And started a history page at Substack a month ago.
I feel your pain. You can't say anything on Twitter without being ripped apart...and it doesn't help for people who try to talk about human rights causes.
That's apparently incendiary on the platform. Ugh.
So Substack's journey to becoming social media is now complete?
Excellent, Substack! So excited for this new feature! Woohoo!
Shout out to Blurrrr Dahlia
Me: “I’m not reading all that. Just show me how to use the feature as I’m all in.”
I've been thinking since I started there must be a way to 'start from scratch,' without a built in audience. Virality has the potential to change the game for some of us writers that aren't established with a podcast or a giant instagram following.
This is the way.
Bravo Substack team! Looking forward to seeing its impact in the coming months!
I'm going to be negative here, but only because I love Substack, the people behind it, and what it represents.
This decision, while fun, takes Substack in the direction I have fled from. While ads are an issue, many believe (including me), that there are some inherent problems with social media that are best avoided. Bite-sized "posts" encourage emotional responses lacking logic or compassion. I already wasn't a fan of the "like" button being a part of Substack, but with full length articles, it wasn't a big issue. With short posts, having "likes" drives a lot of unhealthy responses. Ask Jonathan Haidt, who you provided a link to in the article. Ask the people who created The Social Dilemma.
I love Substack for what it is. I am all about new features or product if the positives outweigh the negatives. But I feel like this decision was made considering only the positives
I hope I'm wrong, and that this is nothing like social media.
With love,
A faithful Substack writer, reader, and investor
Tbh, the last thing I want is to be part of another social network with a newsfeed. The newsfeed ruined facebook and basically stopped anybody from ever visiting one somebody elses page again. I left most social media to get away from that sort of thing. This reads like a play to steal some of Twitter's users, but are we forgetting how toxic Twitter was/is?
hi, nathan.
i JUST joined substack to get away from twitter. eagerly awaiting NOTES feature here.
"toxic" twitter isn't inaccurate, but let us not forget that many twitter users (*ahem*) have been repeatedly locked out of their accounts for posting factually correct information, especially when that info has a severe political/social slant. i'm tired of being censored for posting the truth, and look forward to NOTES here. maybe i'll even get into longer form writing, even though i'm no writer.
thx,
c
My only concern is that if I have notes and chat messages flying in as well as emails I'll go mad even faster than I already am.
Haha right? I need to turn emails off - everytime I try I end up unsubscribing which isn’t what I want.
i think there is a way but haven't found it yet 😂🙂
Ahh 😌 someone will know won’t they. I’ll have a little search 👀
Hi Claire, I have the solution. Go to the settings for your account. Not your dashboard settings, but the one that's in the drop-down menu next to your profile picture(top right). At the top of that screen there's a setting for "newsletter delivery". If you highlight the "smart notifications" circle, you will no longer receive emailed posts, you will only see them in the app. Did wonders for my inbox!
It's possible you may still get emails when people comment or like your posts if you have that setting toggled in a certain direction. But you will not get an email every time someone you subscribe to posts on their Substack. The only downside, is you won't receive cross-post notifications, because those only go to email not to the app.
Phone App Meg?
Yes! Although I believe there's a desktop version of the app, too.
I've been meaning to do this. Your comment was the kick in the pants I needed. Done. My mailbox should be happier.
Yeah emails, got up in the 1000's now for just Substack. Had Monday schedule but think a nasty little songbird natched it out the window ...if songbirds can be nasty
Thanks, Meg. I'll do that myself I think
Yeah, I somehow did the reverse and subscribed to authors I never even read. Found this out in phone setting which lists what I read and apparently subscribed to. Had to unsubscribe 😕 felt bad but .. rookie move I guess as not sure what happened
Valid concern! Managing notifications is a tedious process.
Yes. Every so often I go for the nuclear option and turn off all notifications for a while.
I did this but then realised new subs were headed to old posts and I was missing their comments
oh, that's not good :-(
Will this enable readers to easily share quotes directly from Substack pieces they enjoy? Curious to see how this will work. I think the ability to share the “zinger that caught their attention” is a great way to get writers more readers and also get readers the information/ discussions they’re looking for.
Also this feels like it has the potential to be very friendly to neurodiverse audiences. I could see writers sharing the “bullet point” version of their pieces in Notes so more diverse attention spans can soak in rich information without being asked to scroll for 1,500 words.
Hi - having used beta a little bit, yes, a highlight or excerpt a quote is one of the numerous functions available.
That would be a great feature if that's how Notes will work. How many times have I landed on a genius paragraph and wanted to share it's brilliance right away?!
This is going to be so amazing I can share quick recipes and short written info!
Joining Substack has had an incredible effect on my motivation to write as well as making sure I'm putting out quality pieces. I've only just started really, but I'm proud of what I've achieved so far (15 subscribers woo!)
So, I have faith in the team here that this new Notes feature will be a good thing. However, there is a part of me that worries that this is going to end up like twitter and become an algorithm than favours the already-established over the grassroots. Let's see how it goes.
I mean a lot of it is telling people I know in real life.
Other things is finding forums that are relevant to the topics and sharing it there.
Awesome! Now, I'm convinced that I really don't need twitter. :D
This.
This looks really interesting. Substack just keeps getting better and better. It's my new favourite place to be on the internet so thank you.
I can't quite understand the details of what it is and how it works yet. I guess I'll _____ around and find out. 😜
Excited to test this out!
Oh I’m gonna use the shit out of this 💯
I'm terribly excited about this! Discovery is something that has been missing from Substack and I think this will help. It's also a great way to engage on a platform that I think brings out the best in us.
This feels like a retweet feature. I confess to being extremely skeptical.
I confess to being extremely curious and happy to wait til I actually experience it before even contemplating being extremely skeptical. Too bad that particular seating section isn't sold out.🤷♂️
Good plan Brad, we should be grateful the team is on it.
It just amuses me how quick so many people are to immediately jump on skepticism and/or pessimism before the thing actually launches!! Makes me wonder how these people manage every day in real life!! But, thank you, De.
This is getting noticed by Twitter as they are blocking sharing of Substack links now?
Here is Chris Best, Substack’s founder tweeting about it….https://twitter.com/cjgbest
Uh oh I'm very worried about this! Notes could pose a real threat to my publication! While I love the idea of a 'new' social media for personal/leisure time, for my publication Notes is a major threat.
My publication is B2B and has for-work professional 'branding'. My newsletters are not for leisure-time scrolling, they are for readers to use for their work, on work time with their work email addresses and on their work expense accounts. Having my publication associated with a social media network will damage its brand catastrophically.
If Notes takes off as a mainstream social network then potential readers will see my publication as not serious or authoritative and that means they won't sign up for a subscription (nor would their managers approve such a subscription).
Not only that, but any reader who separately starts using Notes for leisure would have to costantly switch between their professional subscriber account (work email address) and their personal Substack account which would be a huge pain in the neck and potentially drive them away from professional publications.
This sounds great. I send out my newsletter twice a week and I cover specific topics each day. But sometimes something comes to mind that I want to post or share but it doesn´t warrant a full newsletter, or even a section in the newsletter. So hopefully this will close the gap. Thanks Substack!
I've been writing on Substack for 2+ years now. I recently moved my podcast over to Substack, starting offering paid subscriptions, and now offer video posts to subscribers, in addition to podcasting and newsletters. This is another exciting development and I can't wait to try it out!
This is really cool, especially for finance-related newsletters. There are often things I'd like to share with my subscribers without emailing them.
I think that's what I'll use this for.
Please avoid implementing infinite scroll/pull to refresh though!!
This is a great idea. I've seen a steady stream of new subscribers recently, and nearly all of them come from within the Substack Network. This feels much more organic than anything on Twitter, LinkedIn, and FB, where engagement is sporadic. Big thanks to everyone working behind the scenes on this!
Almost all of my subscribers come through Substack, and I've barely seen any attention through my social media links.
This network is much, much stronger for growth than all the rest. I'm certainly not going to be mad about new features, whether I opt into them or not!
Has substack ever considered one-off payments for articles? It could be as low as 10 cents. It is difficult for new writers to get paid subscriptions. But I think many free subscribers would occasionally reward a writer for an article they liked and pay a one-off 10c to a Dollar fee as a thank you if a button would be available. The threshold to a paid subscription is often too high and many people don't want to be locked into a subscription.
There are existing systems that do this pretty well, but they are spread thin.
My ideal is paying for articles I like and seldom subscribing. There is so much to read that I may not revisit any particular author for months. A subscription in that case is immoral and wrong.
A minor (say 20c) fee to read is also acceptable to me, though I want instant repay if the article turns out to be click bait or something I'm not interested in.
In one case I went out of my way to pay 12 dollars for an article I thought was superb. The publication had no way for me to tell them what the payment was for, so never again. I also deliberately avoid that publication now and destroy cookies should I unintentionally end up there.
It would be cool if subscribers can donate to a post and not have to pledge something every month if they cannot. Like what buy me a coffee has.
It sounds like an intriguing idea, but if you don't also figure out how to combat trolls who figure out how to game the system by harvesting users in violation of the terms of service, it seems likely to get out of control. See my post yesterday on this issue (which I know you've addressed in this instance): https://tompendergast.substack.com/p/the-pirates-are-coming-for-substack
N = 35 million total Substack subscribers
N = 2 million paid Substack subscribers
= 5.7 percent of subscribers are "paid."
N = 20,000 Subscribers to my Substack site
N = 1,140 paid subscribers (at 5.7 percent)
$45 average annual subscription (net)
.... $51,300 revenue from Substack if I can get to 20,000 subscribers with 5.7 percent paid.
With my wife's teaching salary, we can live comfortably in Troy, Alabama on these combined revenue sources.
So that's the goal ... and the proverbial bottom line. I'm currently at 3,170 subscribers (97 paid) = 3 percent paid ... I've got to go write some good stories!
I also know from previous research from previous Substack articles, that there are about 250 million adults living in America. If 25 million of those 35 million subscribers are from America, that would be 10 percent of adult Americans now subscribing to Substack.
When you/we get to, say, 30 percent of adult Americans subscribing to Substack, you will have a societal change of massive significance. The power of the mainstream media to play "gatekeeper of the news" is rapidly eroding. Personal opinion: This will be a great thing given how awful our mainstream "journalism" has become.
I write about topics like this ... at my Substack site.
I'm skeptical. Sounds like we're morphing into another Twitter. If we're fed notes from persons we're not subscribed to, that's not a good direction. Substack's appeal was its simplicity. Simplicity that is vanishing weekly.
I'll wait and see, maybe feel different later on, but it seems like the transformation into social media is well under way.
Intriguing announcement. If done well, this could solve a holy grail I've been looking for for years: how to share links like Kottke.org used to back in the day. If done poorly, could cause Substack to feel like Twitter today. Hoping for the best and eager to learn more.
Let me try this again, since my first comment was deleted: The Substack business model is designed to reward those with existing social networks, just like every other model it's competing against. Financial rewards are still more a function of popularity and name recognition than any other indicator of merit. The model itself is a byproduct of techno-feudalism (Varoufakis), and it reinforces the existing economic filtration system; fringe voices are perpetually sidelined in favor of recognized brand names. The new Substack feature will surely amplify that effect. Even if some unknown brand like mine was to "succeed" on this platform, it would only happen because of brand recognition. The organic contours of art requires financial independence from such social and economic forces to become fully revealed. This is my frustration. Thanks for reading my rant. - Violin A. Ghostwriter
I might be atypical but my Substack growth (which has been impressive) had almost nothing to do with other social media platforms. The key for me was getting articles that were picked up by other sites ... and promoting my articles on other Substack sites. And also making a lot of posts in the Reader Comments of Substack writers. I think my name was fairly well known by the time I wrote my first Substack story six months ago.
Converting a small percentage of my free subscribers to paid subscribers will probably determine if I am a long-term Substack writer. The 2 to 5 percent who do pay for subscriptions are doing a wonderful service to society IMO.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/what-ive-learned-in-6-months-on-substack
That's not my topic.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 perfectly stated
Very curious how big this will be for writers, and how it works in practice, but I believe it has potential. The unfortunate catch22 is that being discovered has to always be a motivation, at least in a realm where hoping to make a living writing so you don’t have to make a living doing something you like less is a massive consideration.
But I do want to express my excitement about this new feature as I have stagnated in growth and yet still do not want to migrate elsewhere and write for the algorithm 😙
This is exactly why I'm doubling down on Substack over LinkedIn. Appreciate the constant flow of new features to improve sharing thoughtful ideas.
There are times when I don't have it in me to write a full length entry about anything, or about what is on my mind. This Notes thing seems like it would fit the bill perfectly.
omg omg omg! A Substack exclusive social media type of feed? Yes please. Yes to this!
I really hope you can compose notes in the app and REALLY hope we’ll be able to compose regular posts in the actual app soon too! 🤞🏻
Substack continues to make great feature additions!! Excited to use Notes moving forward!
Love this idea. Can’t wait to apply this
Fantastic.
Sounds great! And it also sounds more like the idea of the internet we love than the one we sometimes see. I’ll definitely try it and give some feedback.
I hope to learn how to use this as I would love to take it to full use with what I'm building on my Substack. I look forward to learning more on Notes
Elon’s worst nightmare? Substack certainly hopes so... interesting to see where it goes, how it will be adopted. Chat hasn’t been great but other features rolled out have been outstanding. Would love support to embed Rumble videos just like a YouTube or TikTok. Thanks, Substack! Check out Indie’s Tech Tips on Rumble with quick tips for Substack https://www.rumble.com/c/c-2232204
I’m part of some chats that work well... a lot are just crickets I think we need longer to adapt?
Maybe? Not sure what to write there to spark discussion- usually adding an alert to the most recent post so people can discuss
Hmm yep 👍 But they discuss in the post comments? So two places to discuss? I’ve reminded folks of things or asked a question which has worked well.
it's confusing. For whatever reason, people don't really comment on my posts, which for the most part is a summary of other videos to check out, or an alert of an upcoming livestream. Was hoping chat was a better forum/format for that, all in line. We keep experimenting!
Intriguing new feature, looking forward to seeing it in action!
Struggling to understand what this actually is. A Twitter-esque feed within the dashboard of each writer?
I'm not sure how it's going to work tech-wise, but I don't get why a newsletter platform would want to become another Twitter.
Chat, Threads, Notes... all seems a bit messy. However, if they can replicate the non-Hellish side of Twitter, I'd gladly try it.
Twitter is a garbage dump, but it wasn't at first. I just don't want to see *any* social media on Substack (I quit Twitter and FB years ago, because they got to be too distracting, irritating, and exhausting). I just want to read writing, essays, newsletters. I had a feeling this was going to happen.
Perhaps you could suspend your hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing until...oh, I don't know......until it actually drops....and, you/we get a chance to use it? You're eagerly leaping to the conclusion that this new feature, all by itself, will suddenly drag Substack into the social media cesspool.
Plus, even if it does, will any of that actually keep you from "read writing, essays, newsletters"? Pump the brakes...just a bit....on the manufactured angst about this, Bob. At least until it's got some mileage logged. Just a thought.
I think that's all we could have hoped for, Bob.
Twitter has already anticipated its doom, how insecure of Elon Musk to ban Substack links on Twitter.
So where is Notes?
I wasn’t enthused about yet another social feed. But then I read Matt Taibbi’s note about Twitter banning his links. So maybe you’re onto something...
Twitter has earned my deep disrespect. So far, Substack continues to earn my respect. I look forward to using and promoting this new feature set. I often have short recommendations to make that don't deserve an article of their own, and that I don't want to put into a grab-bag article.
Can't wait to never use Twitter again
Content moderation. Better nail it.
Overrated and mostly not really necessary. You choose what your content is, it's subscription based, not a network that needs to be babysat.
Substack ROCKS!! I ove my subscribers and all those who 9n this astoundingly brilliant platform along with all those who create it and keep making it better and better!
I'll let brains at Substack work out all the details. I just like the idea of a larger reach for our potential audience and work.
Well, it sounds nice, but what is it? What do I actually do?
Substack has some great writers and great content. But it will flame out in a few years if the subscription model does not change. There needs to be an all-content subscription option where the user pays more per month - maybe as much as 20$ - and has access to any content on the platform, with writers getting a slice of that money when their pieces are read by all-content subscribers.
I would like to subscribe to about 10 different Substack writers, maybe more. Some post only once a week or less, others many times. But my total time reading stacks is, and always will be, less than the time I spend using Netflix or Spotify. So, no way can the price of Substack be 3-4x what I pay for those subscriptions.
I’ve been testing this out (I’m in one of the screenshots, “look at me ma, I made it!”) and excited to leave Twitter behind.
My favourite feature? The flow for sharing a quote from a newsletter you’re currently reading. Just highlight the passage, click “restack quote” and it’ll render a gorgeous little excerpt.
This sounds very much like social media now, and Substack is starting to break 😡😡 If you claim it's a place for writers and less noise, then why do you keep adding to the noise with chats and notes and whatever the next silly thing will be?!
I like this: "By changing the rules of engagement—by creating a new media universe with different laws of physics—the internet can be better than it has ever been.... While we are reaching the limits of the era of social networks, there is so much rich territory to explore with subscription networks."
Very cool. Love this. Congrats to the team!
One thing that would really help is a way to express more than 'like/dislike'. including things like 'funny', 'taught me something', 'wise', 'interesting speculation', 'well-argued but I still disagree'. We have to take back a society where people understand that it is not only possible but commonplace for reasonable people of good will to disagree. Stopping the turning of every utterance into a popularity contest and witchhunt is a necessary part of that.
ok but how do we use it to argue with strangers about shit that doesn't really matter??
hi, alex.
i JUST joined substack, fleeing ongoing twitter censorship and looking forward to new substack NOTES feature.
you made me smile, here.
thx.
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LOL
Very exciting! Excited for this refreshed take on social media <3
Three cheers for Substack. You are the only social media platform that I have ever joined. I did so with great trepidation and I'm so glad I did. If I never make a bean from the articles I write I will still have had an enriching experience, connecting with interesting people and enjoying their work. Your ethos rocks. Don't ever change! Hope this new enhancement takes off - looks good.
How exciting! Maybe i'll be discovered yet! LOL I am looking forward to trying this new feature! Thank you!
It does still take someone to "discover" us. But you have a pretty big universe of people who could find your site and recommend it. It helps to have one or more stories that go viral. The people with the greatest influence are still those that can make your post go viral. I know this: None of my posts on Facebook or Twitter were going to go viral. And I'm a freelance journalist who knows that none of the articles that interest me would be "bought" and published by the sites that might pay for freelance articles. I wouldn't say any of my Substack articles have "gone viral," but serval were picked up/linked by sites that do have large audiences .... and many of those readers became subscribers.
I've just been writing about what interests me on the off chance that others might also be interested in the same topic. Sometimes people are.
I've re-published several articles on my Substack site that were rejected by countless editors. Some of these stories got tens of thousands of reads and generated many flattering comments.
So thanks to Substack I can say, "my first instincts were right. That was actually pretty good. You should have published it."
Yes Bill going back to previous articles with 0 opens and beefing them up,updating and pinning them at the top or may even redraft and publish again. Good words are worth the views and always new eyes on your work
Good tip. Thanks.
Thanks Bill, yes that method is ongoing and has increased #s and brought new subscribers
I like the idea and concept, it keeps things within the network, but I gotta say Notes doesn't really jive as a product name. All I can think about is Lotus Notes from back in the day, the precursor to the Outlook and Gmails of the world. It also doesn't seem to fit with what it actually does. I feel like "Hat Tip" or "Creditor" is a more aligning name for what this product does, and it ties in with what people already know from the internet.
So it's like Twitter with no ads, bots and crypto-scams?
Love it! This seems like an expanded version of chat so that chat can be more like a chat prompt, a bit like Twitter; and Notes can be more like social media posts. But it’s got the lure of sharing content from other Substackers. I am calling us Substackers now and you’re Stackin’ it! Substack is a game changer and the more tools the more creative we can get and attract more subscribers and increase our attraction so some who can will pay. 😊 Thank you!
Chats have gone nowhere so don't like to think Notes associated with that lead balloon. Susy
Sooo, what I'm reading is that we'll get ads very soon 😃
OHHH -- that's what I've been waiting for! If I understand correctly, 'Notes' would let me send quick messages to my subscribers, if I want to alert them to something f.e., without having to write a long article and without clogging up their inboxes? I hope I'm not wrong 😉
That sounds great if that’s it?
Yeah, I'm not sure either. Guess we'll find out.
As a long time social media user who simply doesn't use it anymore because of how useless it has become, I'm excited for this. It seems there aren't obvious poor incentive structures guiding this move, and thus it's utility can be great!
I worked hard for 8 years to build a huge brand on social media. Then the bait and switch happened and I lost everything. I hope each day that lessons of the past have been learned, and Substack stays true to its mission.
I love you Substack ♥️
You just keep on coming up with so many great tools for writers and readers to genuinely connect with each other and share value. Thank you!
Not fully understanding how it will work but I like the sound of it! Ready to explore when it’s available 😊
It’s interesting folks comparing it to twitter feed? I don’t feel like we’ve fully adapted to the chat function yet?
I've definitely not utilised it!
I’m finding it works best in-between posts when you want to ask a question, share a thought and invite replies. Also good for reminding people of a thing. The email you get just says xxx started a chat 💬 so folks have to then go see what that’s about... ✨🤓
That’s v helpful to hear, thanks, Claire.
I appreciate the continued effort to foster meaningful discovery. It's what makes this platform special. As a recovering product manager, I can appreciate the imperative to iterate and thrust out new features to feed the monster. I hope the new notes feature will not add more noise and become a spamming engine. It's a delicate ecosystem here.
I'm looking forward to exploring Notes, because I've always loved the idea of short-form writing. (I even reviewed a book about it if anyone is interested: https://terryfreedman.substack.com/p/7-books-for-writers#%C2%A7short-form-creative-writing-a-writers-guide-and-anthology). I think one great use could be "quick looks", for example: "I've just come across a book called X by author Y. I have only read a small amount of it so far but it's looking promising. I'll report back in a 'proper' article when I've read more."
I'm continually impressed by the rate at which new functionality is released. Not sure if I'll be using this specific feature personally, but I love the amount of support platform users are given.
Ah, the articulation and response we've all been waiting for... Can't come quick enough!
Love this idea. It should drive discovery to those who are worth discovering and allow for rapid propagation of important information. Can't want to see this in action.
I'm really looking forward to being able to point people towards protest movements as they come up. My bi-weekly schedule is great for discussing causes, tactics and news events, but it means I'm always behind unless I want to spam my readers.
If these Notes don't spam inboxes, but just pop up in Explore, I'll be all over them!
100%.
Class 👏
I‘m making a mental note about notes.
Best wishes for a sound model.
Elon Musk doesn't like the competition. Heh.
Just in time for Twitter blocking Substack links.. Substack will kick Elon's behind with this!
Where is it? Is Notes up and running? How do we access it?
Substack lost the biggest opportunity of lifetime by not launching the product and just announcing it!!even if twitter was going for the kill switch you could’ve capitalized on the news. Now the twitter megaphone is gone make no mistake, the day you’re planning to launch there will be some other cooked up controversy to create drama in twitter to steer the conversation away. This has the real potential to morph into what twitter cannot. not mastodon or other 1000 clones.. Twitter is still trying to course correct ship but it’s hard until “someone” need to find next cool hobby which at least on paper should sounds like saving humanity so they can feel important.
Any idea when this product will be launched? I am still not seeing it on my account
It's not even launched yet and Twitter seems terrified of it. They have disabled engagement on any tweet with a Substack URL.
I'm more excited than ever to try Notes, especially after Twitter has blocked sharing my substack. I'm tired of the censorship and other games that continue. My Twitter account has been deboosted forever and nobody at Twitter understands their own algorithm. It will never be fixed.
Here is hoping to much better conversations and growth of my substack.
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Roll it out!!!
I don’t know what it is but I’m game nonetheless.
Um came here to try and use it.
ready for it!!
This is the most encouraging thing I've read online since a very long time.
We cannot wait!!
Good luck. I'm with ya!
It can be up to us.
Hello, is there a way to know more about this feature and how you are going to implement it in the existent site? And is there a way to give feedback. Heard about the site because of the Notes feature, but holy crap - there is so much you could/should improve in terms of usability and UX.
Even the Sign Up process feels kinda bad with a lot of categories missing and then getting a number of blogs slapped in your face, that you are asked to subscribe to, while you havent read even ONE article of ANY blog yet.
Same happens, when you just click on someones blog - You are getting asked to subscribe, before you couldve read a single thing. STOP IT!
And why cant you subscribe to someones blog WITHOUT activating the newsletters?
And if you want to disable the eMails, it unsubscribes you on the site too - it looks like an opt-out, what shouldnt have been an opt-out in the first place and then its not even that. Why do these settings exist then?
And why does a click on the comment button open a whole new tab?
Your categories are awful to filter for articles you might be interested in. For example what does NOT fit into something like "culture"?
Just let people use custom Tags and make it possible to filter per language. There isnt even a setting to set up your language in the first place... i cant speak spanish. :I
And there is so much more i stumbled over by just using the site for a few hours. 0.o
How will this be with the Notes feature? Is that going to be an overhaul of the site or just feature creep?
(Also i get sometimes randomly a box in my feed to try out Notes, but nothing happens when i click it.)
I am thrilled Substack will be rolling out NOTES.
My Substack "Vitality Explorer News" will support this new feature with a Dare To Be Vital Link of the Day. This will be a specific actionable way to enhance your physical, mental, social and or spiritual well-being.
Thank you to the founders and creators at Substack for the having the vision to believe the internet can and will be a place where we can all learn from and support each other.
Substack is my thing now. I look forward to this!
I see 'Notes' is live for some people. What is the timeline for the rest of us?
I’m not a writer, but as a reader/consumer I can definitely say that Substack has changed my life for the better...
Looking forward to it.
Sounds promising! Looking forward to it
This is very cool! And I'm excited to see how Substack grows!
Interesting. Looking forward to checking this out!
Really, *really* looking forward to this feature. So exciting
I’m stoked about this, I just hope it doesn’t end up like the other Twitter-like experiences we’ve seen rise and fall. I’d much rather share my research in an ecosystem around my main content rather than constantly redirecting traffic elsewhere back here.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to Notes as a way to share things more organically instead of a curated list post, that I can end up overthinking and spending too much time on. Think it might end up being more useful than Chat...
This description is exactly what got me into Twitter years ago. The ability to see what writers/intellectuals/etc. that I was interested in were sharing seemed so cool. It's great to see that Substack is aiming to recreate that.
Before you compete with Twitter, could you please make Substack better for fiction writers by allowing us to use indents instead of hard returns? And by allowing a pop-out “reader” that has page turns? To simulate ebooks? Without these, the fiction reading experience is subpar.
These options would really help serial fiction writers and readers have a better UX experience on the platform.
Looks like the Twitter Guy is feeling pretty threatened by the mere announcement of this feature.
One thing: as a native speaker of Italian, I was wondering whether there are plans to create a localized version of Substack for different national markets. Medium missed the chance to do that way back, but I still feel it would help the community grow.
Twitter is a dystopian hellscape of a disaster, so I am sure this will be interesting for many writers. However, it is not entirely clear to me how notes and chats and comments differ. I assume that some level of experimentation is at work here which could account for duplicative functionality in an attempt to find what works. Looking forward to seeing this roll out.
“Another function I would like is to be able to promote my own substack to my contacts list, automatically.” Good point And I would like a feature where I can send text messages to all of my contacts in my iPhone automatically
So smart, so excited for this!!
I'm looking forward to seeing this roll out.
I haven't had much actual engagement through Twitter, and have found myself instead spending time engaging in ridiculous debates over silly subjects. It's chiefly a waste of time.
Anything to increase exposure to my writing among the Substack community (and beyond) is more than welcome! I've had some success in the early going, but I feel like there's a lot more to be had.
HI, I am a big fan of Substack! I am an occasional writer and a reader. I especially like the positive, non toxic environment. I attribute that to the fact the advertising is excluded, which eliminates click-bait crap. However I do not pay for many subscriptions. Often because getting the occasional free installment of a newsletter is all I want. ¨
Suggestion: I would be willing to pay an annual fee to Substack and Substack would distribute that revenue proportionally to the different writers I follow, even if I don't have a paying subscription to those writers. There would be no need to give money to the writers, to whom I have a paying subscription. The point is to give some money to all the other writers I like and read , occasionally, but do not pay for. They bring value to the substack platform as a whole, even if don't pay them directly. How much to give to each writer would still need to be determined. I wouldn't mind if there was some sort of tracking mechanism that determined how much time I spent on each writer.
Twitter is now blocking all "likes", replies or retweets of new tweets with a Substack link or even just its Twitter handle, as of April 7 (Saturday) morning.
There is no better sign that Elon Musk and his team know how Substack's Notes can be a superior alternative to Twitter and there is very strong demand among readers for it.
I will definitely be on Notes when it launches, and will put as much content there as I currently do on my Twitter account (~10k followers). I wish the team every success.
Sounds terrific! Is there an estimate as to when this might get rolled out? (...or did they say and I miss that? Sometimes I miss stuff.)
This is going to be awesome! Reminds me that I need to get to Substacking more!!!!
Likewise
As a writer looking to de-couple from Twitter (for obvious reasons) I really welcome this new feature. Although, I think its success may depend on how shareable the individual notes are to websites and other social media platforms. Twitter became popular because writers/celebrities/politicians could write on it and share that post around the web. It would be nice if we could do the same thing with these notes.
Absolutely excellent advocacy!
100% agree with all arguments about the difference between Substack and social media. Well written and spot on. Can not wait...
This is making me want to reinstall Substack on my phone.
How is this different than the Chats? Will both live together?
This is a fantastic take and presentation of a regular feature of social media. Substack has its purpose very clear, and every feature consistently aligns to it. Hope this (Notes) works as intended.
So positive 💕 it.
Great idea! Also, since you're at it, don't forget to make a note to subscribe to my niche here. :) Just click on my name. Oh, I always reciprocate. Peace.
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A quote of mine from about thirty years ago seems to fit here...in reference to our social media mess...."the only way out of this mess is in" .... well, possibly!
This is awesome, as I don't know where I would be without this platform and looking forward to the new features!
wow that is very good feature for inmediate engagement. cool ❤️
Great news. Substack has made me love publishing my thoughts again. Has made me a happier person once again.
I think Notes fits a clear role and a lot of you are not getting it’s potential.
It’s actually kind of genius.
Most authors on this platform don’t recommend more than a few writers. I see most stacks only recommend 3-5. It’s all very curated. But if Notes let’s me engage in a meaningful way with new stacks I’ve come across but don’t quite want to give them a follow or recommend, then I think it’s going to be VERY powerful for growth.
This is amazing. Feels like the beginning of something special.
I love the idea of this and can’t wait to see it in action.
Excited!
LOVE this idea! (And Substack has enriched my life-after-the-magazine-business in a way I never could have imagined.)
Congrats on your success! Just ran through by your stack and you have a really engaged following. We’ll done you should be proud!
Fantastic. Can’t wait. Will give me an excuse to delete Twitter. No more “5 ways AI will blah blah blah” or “I did this dumb thing so you won’t have to. A thread. [sponsored]”.
Would love this to build a community.
Just getting started with my Substack on life in Japan
https://hiddenjapan.substack.com/p/japanese-idiosyncrasies-and-the-galapagos
The lifeblood of ad vs subscription model is what makes all the difference. This is the best analogy I have ever heard. Thanks guys.
I like the app, but I don't want the emails that come along with it. Is there any way to stop the emails and continue reading the stacks that I'm subscribed to in the app? Thanks for any help.
When I got on the app the emails stopped coming. I get notifications but not emails when things are published. Do you emails say open in the app? Or is there a choice under those subscriptions to receive them in the app?
Sorry, I don’t understand what you said. I can’t find a way to stop the emails without canceling my subscriptions. The FAQs aren’t any help either. BTW, I like the photo of you and your horse in the bluebells or blue bonnets. I used to ride and owned horses years ago.
Hmmm. Do you see your subscriptions in the app? All I know is when the app came my subscriptions went there. Now it’s like an overwhelming magazine that I avoid.
Yes, I prefer to read them in the app without all the emails coming to my mail account. It’s getting flooded. I don’t know how to stop them!
"It won’t feel like the social media we know today."
PREACH!
Fun to see the continued experimentation here. It might be fun to see you include smaller accounts in your examples when posting updates.
I'm interested to learn more about how to use this feature. I look forward to seeing how it goes!
Well dang, just as I was about to fall back in love with traditional social media y'all go and do this. Guess I have some new plans and strategies to explore!
I'm really looking forward to this feature.
Look forward to seeing how it works :)
Great addition!
This is great. I got to start my Substack in the next month.
A concern people have is that it will lead to spamming. If people get emails for every note you make, it may get annoying. I hope maybe this can be a standalone thing that subscribers can visit on your page but not be bombarded with constant notifications.
I like a lot of things about substack but the end result will be paying for every individual reader I might be interested in. I don’t mind paying for interesting writing, but when every single writer means a separate monthly fee, that’s going to get very expensive. It also will make it hard to find new voices. That’s where substack, as great as it is, can’t match the traditional nagazine model.
I think they’ll innovate their paid platform as soon as this year. It’s on everyone’s minds and they’re must be aware of it. We’ll see!
The mention of LiveJournal took me back to the days when I had one of those and a MySpace! Ah, the good old days. I look forward to when I have access to the feature so I can see how it can propel me towards a deeper connection with my subscribers. I'm not sure how many of them use the app or visit the site but I hope this will foster a new and unique line of communication.
Looks interesting. We will be thinking about ways to try it out.
I'm so excited to try this new feature! I have been using Substack for almost a year now and have struggled to get people from the platform to discover my food writing. I'm really happy that you are creating your own platform, that, while still being a social platform, seems away and different from the traditional ones.
Looking forward to use it and hopefully get some new people to read what I'm writing! Thank you!
Since I started my subscription site on Ghost several months ago, I’ve spent more time marketing and trying to get my work out there on social media than actual writing. 99% of my followers on social media are there for the quick content and don’t support the actual work on my site. The vast majority of subscribers came from word to mouth, not social media. I kept thinking of ways to reach a larger community of people who don’t want to mindlessly scroll through life; people who want to support other writers, podcasters, and artists. I’m new to Substack and plan to leave Ghost because the community here seems stronger and the fact that head honchos of Substack have similar values as I do. But, let’s be real, I have 0 followers and engagements so far. Either way, the message in this article makes me think I’m in the right place.
You're in the right place.
Yuval Noah Harari should join the Substack community to take a stand for what he writes about. He writes about the dangers of algorithms and social media stealing your attention but has a team of social media managers. I wrote, "I would give my left nut to spend my life researching and writing instead of putting my time into the soul-sucking marketing void of hyper-capitalist hell." You might be interested in my article, where I give a shout-out to all Substack is doing to help writers.
https://bornwithoutborders.substack.com/p/yuval-noah-harari-hero-and-hypocrite
I love Substack for it's longform, but let's face it, sometimes you want to just share something you enjoy and leave it at that. It sounds like it will be a quick easy way to post meaningful links and recommendations. Not sure I understand the visual on their lead image - won't it get crowded if everyone posts on top of each other? Perhaps it's just an example, we shall see.
I realize that most on Substack would like for us to do a paid subscription...if we pay for a bunch it can get expensive for many people... maybe allow us a flat rate for X number of pages? While it probably wouldn't be as much as single subscriptions, it could get more followers and when they like something, they will tend to share.
Love the site and share items often ❤️
I'm really curious to see how this unfolds, provides value, yet doesn't become another shiny penny.
I'll resist the urge to evoke the dying bird app but this feels right on time. I'm excited to explore Notes.
yes - I'm looking forward to a cleaner version of twitter that is also connected to a deeper content offering.
This is a BAD idea
I am excited about finding Substack. I have several people I follow and feel this is time well spent vs. Social media. No ads is a bonus! Looking forward to finding more authors on my interest of quilting.
Impressive. I look forward to test driving this and seeing how it goes for the entire Substack community.
Excited to see what this will become. I think we're all glad to be here for the ride!
Looks like you’re becoming social media. I’m out
Love this idea. Although recommendations has contributed subs for me, it feels like I'm barely scratching the surface of discoverability. I write & read on Substack, so based on the description of notes, it'll help me find new content AND attract new readers.
Despite the similar UX of a feed, each social platform has its own culture. Take the often cringey but always positive culture that prevails on LinkedIn for example.
I’m thrilled to see Substack culture infused into a feed. I’m here for it!
I'm glad to hear an uplifting idea like this. No ads, let people pay for what they want.
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Why the heck am I not writing more on here?
When I read the headline I thought "is this the beginning of the end?". Upon reading the actual post though, I felt more at ease and hopeful, seeing that you guys at Substack seem to remain acutely aware of the perils in this endless weaving and building work of ours. Let's hope we at the writer' side manage to remain as lucid and make good use of this new feature. I, for one, will not use it daily and definitely will not go back to my Twitter days. I rather chase Dopamons in the park trails.
Usually when a platform adds too many functions from the simple design of its initial function. In digital terms it means end of platform. I give it six months
They could give it a try and see if how it works out. Not everything lands. But nothing lands when risks are not taken.
Sounds like your in never never land
Yeah. It's great up here!
Pretty sure the non-sketchy owners of Substack (Notes) combined with a non-circus, ad free atmosphere will encourage more to subscribe. 7-10 years ago *maybe* Twitter could’ve pulled that off but not without bumps and gaps and maybe serious financial shortfalls. Oh wait. 🤭 Subscription models work better when built organically. Here’s hoping 🥂 Substack as a whole fulfills itself and supersedes whatever expectations exist.
A wonderful idea. I am so excited to learn more about Notes! Quality in writing and thinking may be staging a "come back", sad as that may be to say. My hope is rising against the onslaught of vulgar and clickbait sensationalism now found on social and mainstream media. Onward!
Good article-I’m thinking that the majority of individuals taking advantage of the Notes Application will, no doubt, have Substacks of their own. Should create more communities in the Substack universe.
Not sure about this. I am afraid that it will end up like other social media sites. Will wait and see.
I’m already overwhelmed with content and wonder if this will add to that. I don’t read enough of the. Good stuff that I paid for as it is!
It’s such a nice spacious platform it is a worry!
Very exciting. Looking forward to it!
This product update made me feel inspired by the possibility of the internet again to build a more beautiful world. Thank you! So glad to be a part of the Substack universe.
Love this lofty idea of bringing back friendship and love to our digital spaces - "Most of us have made friends on the internet, and some have even fallen in love online" - as well as building a social-media universe with different laws of physics. We can do it! To those with concerns, I say: In the world we're in, it's worth a try!
I can imagine that I would write Notes rather than some (a lot) of what I post on Twitter. More like comments on Medium. Can't wait to try it. I am in favor of substack creating a richer community experience.
Sounds great, but I am just trying to build a subscriber base, much easier said than done.
That looks potentially exciting
Substack is unleashing creative solutions at an explosive rate. Can’t wait to capitalize on the seismic boom 💥 that’s forthcoming once it goes live.
I think this will make me commit more time to substack, just depends on what the content is. I’m sure it will be great though!
So so stoked for this launch. Great concept at the perfect time.
Only started a newsletter recently but I'm a huge fan of the soul and spirit that you put into the features. It's not about being just another social media platform, it's really about great writing and doing everything you can to advance it. 👏