I mean, you say this and I want to believe you, but... even though I'm not (and don't plan to)monetize my writing here, even though my whole reason for being here is to get away from that, my "notes" feed is still filled with "how I made a zillion dollars on substack" articles that I've never clicked on and have no interest in.
I mean, you say this and I want to believe you, but... even though I'm not (and don't plan to)monetize my writing here, even though my whole reason for being here is to get away from that, my "notes" feed is still filled with "how I made a zillion dollars on substack" articles that I've never clicked on and have no interest in.
I can only conclude that since substack only makes money when writers are successful at monetizing their publications, this is the algorithm priotizing the needs of the owners over what I'm here for.
So you know, there is that... (said with all affection -- I'm happy to be here, but those articles and the relentless focus on money money money is troubling and a bit of a sour note in all of it...)
Those Note’s feeds are laughable and annoying. You have to scroll for ten minutes before hitting any posts related to you by some degree. My favorite is when the feed just loops through all the same people, all with check marks, none having any association with me.
The loop is so strange. Same stuff coming back around, and yet I’ve been here for over two months and can’t get any traction in Notes for the life of me (unless I comment on any of the 10 writers showing up in my loop, lol).
But only a handful of writers really. YOu're one of them. Where are you now in terms of subs. My goal is to have more subs than followers. I'm almost half way through
I think the only way to be successful at Notes is to engage with others whenever you post a note, but it has to be with the right people, where your comments will be seen and responded to, i.e., talk to the popular kids. This will get your note circulating in their feeds. Still, it means nothing if those writers don't engage with what you post, and many of them won't. I find Notes very frustrating. I wish I had never wasted my time trying it, as I promised I wouldn't. I don't bother anymore.
I do believe you've nailed it. The problem with Notes is that it's all about finding writers who are good at... posting notes. That is, those who play the game which has as its #1 rule is that you must pretend it isn't a game.
I've had a few interesting exchanges on Notes, and that's great. But it seems to be way more about the popular folks sitting around patting each other on the back, and the not so popular tapping the door in the hope to be noticed.
And there you have it, as you said Corey. The inner circle expands but it's less about the person's work that yields the mutual support, and more about the social personality that one can display.
That's my take anyway. Same dynamic as writers on Twitter.
I can't vouch for Twitter. My only other social media experience is a brief stint on LinkedIn, which I think works very similar to Notes. The more you engage with others the more your notes will circulate, and the more chance you have of reaching more people. Notes seem more limited, though. I know it's a nook compared to other platforms, but to see the same ten people at the top of my feed whenever I go on is irksome. Like you said, it is a game, like any other social platform. If you really want to expand your audience using Notes and the like, you must talk to people you wouldn't normally talk to and pretend they're as awesome as they think they are.
I restack posts sometimes, mine and others, and then always wonder what I was thinking because I know nobody saw it. I don't have the time right now to spend three hours patting backs just to get some views, nor do I care to.
I mean, you say this and I want to believe you, but... even though I'm not (and don't plan to)monetize my writing here, even though my whole reason for being here is to get away from that, my "notes" feed is still filled with "how I made a zillion dollars on substack" articles that I've never clicked on and have no interest in.
I can only conclude that since substack only makes money when writers are successful at monetizing their publications, this is the algorithm priotizing the needs of the owners over what I'm here for.
So you know, there is that... (said with all affection -- I'm happy to be here, but those articles and the relentless focus on money money money is troubling and a bit of a sour note in all of it...)
Those Note’s feeds are laughable and annoying. You have to scroll for ten minutes before hitting any posts related to you by some degree. My favorite is when the feed just loops through all the same people, all with check marks, none having any association with me.
The loop is so strange. Same stuff coming back around, and yet I’ve been here for over two months and can’t get any traction in Notes for the life of me (unless I comment on any of the 10 writers showing up in my loop, lol).
LOL nobody reads my notes either. I just talk to myself in there.
Me too - I actually use Notes as notes.
haha this is the BEST example of someone who TRANSFORMED into a successfull newsletter owner! Chapeau, Kristi! I'll feature this. It's genius.
"I knew her when... "
Lol I'll send out autographs later 😁
I think it's pretty cool we've known each other since Medium days and have both made names for ourselves here though.
haha, "I knew her when" Same with Maya and David! and JR Heimbigner and many more. Jamie...
I'll use STUPID CRAZY as well... because I also wanted to use snooze on. super!!
But only a handful of writers really. YOu're one of them. Where are you now in terms of subs. My goal is to have more subs than followers. I'm almost half way through
I think the only way to be successful at Notes is to engage with others whenever you post a note, but it has to be with the right people, where your comments will be seen and responded to, i.e., talk to the popular kids. This will get your note circulating in their feeds. Still, it means nothing if those writers don't engage with what you post, and many of them won't. I find Notes very frustrating. I wish I had never wasted my time trying it, as I promised I wouldn't. I don't bother anymore.
I do believe you've nailed it. The problem with Notes is that it's all about finding writers who are good at... posting notes. That is, those who play the game which has as its #1 rule is that you must pretend it isn't a game.
I've had a few interesting exchanges on Notes, and that's great. But it seems to be way more about the popular folks sitting around patting each other on the back, and the not so popular tapping the door in the hope to be noticed.
And there you have it, as you said Corey. The inner circle expands but it's less about the person's work that yields the mutual support, and more about the social personality that one can display.
That's my take anyway. Same dynamic as writers on Twitter.
I can't vouch for Twitter. My only other social media experience is a brief stint on LinkedIn, which I think works very similar to Notes. The more you engage with others the more your notes will circulate, and the more chance you have of reaching more people. Notes seem more limited, though. I know it's a nook compared to other platforms, but to see the same ten people at the top of my feed whenever I go on is irksome. Like you said, it is a game, like any other social platform. If you really want to expand your audience using Notes and the like, you must talk to people you wouldn't normally talk to and pretend they're as awesome as they think they are.
I restack posts sometimes, mine and others, and then always wonder what I was thinking because I know nobody saw it. I don't have the time right now to spend three hours patting backs just to get some views, nor do I care to.
I thought it was just me!