At age 78 this new and improved "chat" process is over my head. I have plenty to chat about but, for me, the process is more complex than the subject matter. Semper Fi.
Good one. Let me say this, it's more of, I don't want to submit to the complexity. I worked as a medical imaging director for 28 years and then, recycled x-ray film for the silver. That required back breaking work and driving truck through such 'wonderful" places as NYC. I write everyday and am about 3/4 from finishing my book. The processes on the computer are complex to a fault. Options that are undefinable and without purpose for the average person. That said, I'm sure the geeks get a kick out of showing us just how "smart" they are. SF
I get it. I think most of the heavy lifting is done by the host, if you subscribe to anything.
Me, I was picturing a "chat" like they have on Twitter, which is like Clubhouse (a speaker and a group of listeners who can speak up if passed the mic).
But then I realize it is a written chat, only live, two elements that don't quite vibe to me. The way I process language when reading and writing is not helped by a "live" feature, unlike spoken/heard communication.
Thank you, Substack team, for clarifying the Chat feature. The "business framing" of the Chat feature "as a live event -- where, 'hey paid-readers, we're going to text-chat on this day, between these hours, about this topic'" now makes the Chat feature make sense to me (over, say, "a 'commenting party' in the commenting engine of a post").
Can Chat be configured as follows:
* The ability to give the free-readers the following 'level of access': "As a free-reader, I can see and read ALL the 'chat threads' (both publisher -initiated and paid-reader -initiated), but, I am not allowed to reply-to-a-thread, and, I am not allowed to post-an-emoji to a thread/reply. In other words, a "pure full-read-only ('see all') for the free-reader"? [with, of course, some type of "'Upgrade to paid' call-to-action" -- taking the free-reader to web to complete the payment (as mobile in-app payment is not a thing yet (my understanding)) -- with an auto-redirect back to the Chat-in-question after successful completion of purchase.]
[🤔 "Mobile in-app payments" is going to be a God send for "live events on Chat". And if/when "Mobile in-app payments" happens -- IF it turns out to be a 2nd payment processor (not owned by Stripe),... THEN will Writers/ContentCreators/Publishers then have to further think of themselves as 'wholesalers with wholesale pricing' and not 'retailers with retail pricing'? See: https://substack.com/@tomkudla/note/c-65359431 ]
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
H. L. Mencken
Isn't that what we have now?
"Suppose I am an Idiot. Suppose I am a congressman, but then I repeat myself."
Though most of us saw this coming a while back, with every “new” feature it’s becoming more and more a place for shitfluencers and hucksters, NOT writers.
Thanks so much for the video @jasmine. The sound of that mechanical keyboard gave me PTSD to the time I worked in a cubicle with neighbors around me! But great suggestions and video.
Hello, Katie! To clarify, there are 3 tiers available then? When I created my account, I was confused by the foundling member tier because it required me to charge more than the paid tier, which makes no sense. Founding members should have a smaller price than regular members.
With tiers, I want the ability to create them like Patreon (at least 3-5) and outline the features versus having to direct people to the About page to adequately learn about what’s included.
Basically, I want more flexibility with tiers to offer subscribers unique offers. Hope this makes sense!
Today we only offer the three tiers - free, paid (monthly or annual) and founding member (billed annually). There's power in the simplicity of the tiers we've found. We interviewed Cody who came over from Patreon and shared the following when we asked: What advice have you received about growing your publication that didn’t prove to be helpful?
"Adding more things! I found when I was using Patreon, I tried to pack so much into $5 a month that finally I was like, wait, that does not feel like a correct exchange. I find keeping my offering simple and consistent means if I do ever offer more (a bonus podcast a month, integrating threads), it feels like an extra, special thing and not an expectation. I think it can become overwhelming to give so many things instead of just streamline what works."
Respectfully, I’m not interested in someone else’s thoughts on this topic — that just diminishes my own. I’m firm in my views and still want more flexibility.
In addition, not being able to outline the features included in the tiers is a clunky, outdated process as then folks have to go read about it elsewhere.
The founding member tier doesn’t appeal to me, I’m simply wanting to create a third tier for something in-between my two main ones, which would still be very simple.
At age 78 this new and improved "chat" process is over my head. I have plenty to chat about but, for me, the process is more complex than the subject matter. Semper Fi.
At 84, I don't have that problem. Airborne, all the way.
Good one. Let me say this, it's more of, I don't want to submit to the complexity. I worked as a medical imaging director for 28 years and then, recycled x-ray film for the silver. That required back breaking work and driving truck through such 'wonderful" places as NYC. I write everyday and am about 3/4 from finishing my book. The processes on the computer are complex to a fault. Options that are undefinable and without purpose for the average person. That said, I'm sure the geeks get a kick out of showing us just how "smart" they are. SF
Totally agree with you. I’ve not done much on here because it’s not a logical system. Facebook is simple.. let’s try that here.
Which SF group?
I get it. I think most of the heavy lifting is done by the host, if you subscribe to anything.
Me, I was picturing a "chat" like they have on Twitter, which is like Clubhouse (a speaker and a group of listeners who can speak up if passed the mic).
But then I realize it is a written chat, only live, two elements that don't quite vibe to me. The way I process language when reading and writing is not helped by a "live" feature, unlike spoken/heard communication.
Thank you, Substack team, for clarifying the Chat feature. The "business framing" of the Chat feature "as a live event -- where, 'hey paid-readers, we're going to text-chat on this day, between these hours, about this topic'" now makes the Chat feature make sense to me (over, say, "a 'commenting party' in the commenting engine of a post").
Can Chat be configured as follows:
* The ability to give the free-readers the following 'level of access': "As a free-reader, I can see and read ALL the 'chat threads' (both publisher -initiated and paid-reader -initiated), but, I am not allowed to reply-to-a-thread, and, I am not allowed to post-an-emoji to a thread/reply. In other words, a "pure full-read-only ('see all') for the free-reader"? [with, of course, some type of "'Upgrade to paid' call-to-action" -- taking the free-reader to web to complete the payment (as mobile in-app payment is not a thing yet (my understanding)) -- with an auto-redirect back to the Chat-in-question after successful completion of purchase.]
[🤔 "Mobile in-app payments" is going to be a God send for "live events on Chat". And if/when "Mobile in-app payments" happens -- IF it turns out to be a 2nd payment processor (not owned by Stripe),... THEN will Writers/ContentCreators/Publishers then have to further think of themselves as 'wholesalers with wholesale pricing' and not 'retailers with retail pricing'? See: https://substack.com/@tomkudla/note/c-65359431 ]
Words to live by.
Wet birds don't fly at night.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
H. L. Mencken
Isn't that what we have now?
"Suppose I am an Idiot. Suppose I am a congressman, but then I repeat myself."
Mark Twain
Substack is officially a Social Media platform.
Though most of us saw this coming a while back, with every “new” feature it’s becoming more and more a place for shitfluencers and hucksters, NOT writers.
Bob, is this the correction you were talking about ?
Should we hold on to VTI ?
Thank you,
David Karen
dashakaren@comcast.net
Thanks so much for the video @jasmine. The sound of that mechanical keyboard gave me PTSD to the time I worked in a cubicle with neighbors around me! But great suggestions and video.
Hahah sorry it's not even mechanical! I'm just a really loud typer 😭 I get told I always seem like I'm yelling at someone on Slack (I'm not)
If that’s the biggest complaint, you know you’ve done well… and for that I thank you 🙏
Will most definitely do. am so new to this, but am exciited o start.
So people use Chat?
Never seen anyone active there. 🤷♂️
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Holy shit, I didn’t sign up to be a career politician so fuck you and all your bullshit
What brought that about?
Lack of impulse control
I like that. It happens to us all.
🎭🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
Is it possible to create more than the free and one paid subscription tiers? I can’t find this information anywhere. Thank you!
Today you can set up free, paid subscribers, and founding member tiers. How would you like to see tiers work?
Hello, Katie! To clarify, there are 3 tiers available then? When I created my account, I was confused by the foundling member tier because it required me to charge more than the paid tier, which makes no sense. Founding members should have a smaller price than regular members.
With tiers, I want the ability to create them like Patreon (at least 3-5) and outline the features versus having to direct people to the About page to adequately learn about what’s included.
Basically, I want more flexibility with tiers to offer subscribers unique offers. Hope this makes sense!
We think of the founding member tier as a way for your most loyal fans to show their support, by essentially making a donation on top of their paid subscription. You can rename the tier to whatever you'd like. More info here: https://support.substack.com/hc/en-us/articles/360042039091-Can-I-set-up-another-subscription-plan-for-readers-who-want-to-pay-more
Today we only offer the three tiers - free, paid (monthly or annual) and founding member (billed annually). There's power in the simplicity of the tiers we've found. We interviewed Cody who came over from Patreon and shared the following when we asked: What advice have you received about growing your publication that didn’t prove to be helpful?
"Adding more things! I found when I was using Patreon, I tried to pack so much into $5 a month that finally I was like, wait, that does not feel like a correct exchange. I find keeping my offering simple and consistent means if I do ever offer more (a bonus podcast a month, integrating threads), it feels like an extra, special thing and not an expectation. I think it can become overwhelming to give so many things instead of just streamline what works."
https://on.substack.com/p/grow-series-22-marlee-grace
Respectfully, I’m not interested in someone else’s thoughts on this topic — that just diminishes my own. I’m firm in my views and still want more flexibility.
In addition, not being able to outline the features included in the tiers is a clunky, outdated process as then folks have to go read about it elsewhere.
The founding member tier doesn’t appeal to me, I’m simply wanting to create a third tier for something in-between my two main ones, which would still be very simple.
Thanks 🙏🏽
Aw, wish I had done a Live Chat for the Emmys! Maybe I'll host one for the Oscars? Maybe!
A question I did not see answered in your post post if you need to have a certain volume or number of subscribers before trying to hold a live chat?
Thanks for sharing those tips and features! Will live video calls be added to the chat in the future?
looks like this got answered a few days ago with the new live chat video 🤣
What kind of money people make on having a substack, or YouTube, or Rumnle programs?
Can you schedule a chat in advance?