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YouTopian Journey's avatar

A year ago (the 28th) I created my substack account and spent a month learning how it worked, planning out marketing, etc. as I didn't launch until end of February. I had barely 200 subscribers and now there are thousands so keep writing, posting, sharing, marketing, and creating!

Sarah Miller's avatar

You forgot to add that you show up here every week being helpful to and supportive of this community, as individuals and as a collective. Maybe it's a marketing tactic for you (my gut says it's not -- or not *only* that), but I believe that kind of good energy comes back around to those who offer it up and out.

Appreciate you!

YouTopian Journey's avatar

As writers, we are all in this together so we need to do our best to help each other grow and succeed. Thank you for the kind words, you rock!

Latrice Fowler's avatar

So encouraging for a new substacker like me. Thanks for sharing!!

YouTopian Journey's avatar

It took over 100k words and it wasn't overnight growth, so keep at it!

moviewise 🎟's avatar

Here is a thing I learned recently: I used to have the simple rectangular "subscribe" button on my posts, but then realized that if you paste a link to your newsletter instead, you get a nice large box with the newsletter's one sentence summary and a subscribe field. It looks nicer and is more noticeable than just a simple button. Please scroll to the bottom of the following article to see what I mean: https://moviewise.substack.com/p/the-meaning-of-life

Latrice Fowler's avatar

I did this by mistake and couldn't remember how to get back to it. Thanks for sharing!!!

Meredith's avatar

You can also choose to use "subscribe with caption" when you choose a button, and edit whatever copy you want from there!

Ramona Grigg's avatar

Hi Moviewise, I'm going to go back and read "The Meaning of Life" later, and I do use that larger 'subscribe' button, which is a choice in the settings. Just wanted to say I love your newsletter!

Rosie Hamer (HRH) 🌐👌's avatar

I agree. It is wonderful to have a resource to rely on. Thank you, Ramona.

moviewise 🎟's avatar

Thank you so much Ramona! 😊

Anne Kadet's avatar

Oh that looks great. Thanks for idea!

Minter Dial's avatar

Immediately implemented! Thanks Moviewise.

Elizabeth's avatar

oh wow! that looks great!

Rosie Hamer (HRH) 🌐👌's avatar

It is indeed. Thank you, Elizabeth.

Kritika Kulshrestha's avatar

This is a neat hack! Thank you for sharing.

Rosie Hamer (HRH) 🌐👌's avatar

This is a wonderful recommendation link, moviewise. Thank you.

Debra Goldyn's avatar

It looks great - thanks for the tip!

Holy Writ's avatar

That's a great discovery, thank you!

Constructing Confidence's avatar

That is super helpful! Thanks. I can't wait to read your newsletter. I love movies & I love laughing - what a great combo.

Dakota Duncan's avatar

That does look good! Thanks!

Bill Murphy Jr.'s avatar

Idea/experiment: I’ve reprinted other people’s work a few times in my daily newsletter. Maybe someone here wants to try? Specifics:

1. Looking for really great first-person stories about change, or learning, or growth — things that let readers see the world through someone else’s eyes. Wide variety of topics, voices, etc.

2. Recent example: https://www.understandably.com/p/plenty-of-daylight

3. I’m at Understandably.com. Launched 2019, 500+ editions, 125,000+ free subscribers. I pay for reprints (a bit, usually $50). You’ll probably get some new signups.

Interested? Email me at bill@understandably.com. Maybe put “pitch idea” as the subject. I’m always open to other ideas on how to work together, too. Thanks all!

Ramona Grigg's avatar

Just wanted to say thanks to Bill for choosing my piece (linked above) for Understandably. He is a joy to work with, and the number of comments just floored me! That was fun! Do it!

moviewise 🎟's avatar

How wonderful! Thank you.

How to Be an Artist: A Memoir's avatar

I'll be a selection from my other Substack, "How to Be an Artist." With over a 50-year career as a professional artist/writer, I share lessons learned by telling war stories of sorts. Adaptation is probably the most important attribute for survival. I'm still adapting: thus–Substack.

Winta's avatar

Hey Bill. I make illustrations for my writing and others'. Would you be interested in a few samples?

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

I’m always interested in working with artists. Care to collaborate? theflare@substack.com

Cole Noble's avatar

This sounds awesome, I'll be in touch!

Raju Tai's avatar

Lovely! Will reach out soon. So excited to read Ramona's essay.

Red Lamb's avatar

Fantastic idea, I'll be emailing shortly

Kate Raphael's avatar

This sounds awesome! Just reached out.

Sarah Miller's avatar

I love this. You'll be hearing from me shortly.

Bill Murphy Jr.'s avatar

Sarah did you send me something? I thought I saw something from you but now I can't find it. Can you resend if so? Thanks.

Sarah Miller's avatar

Hi Bill -- yes, I did. Just resent. Thanks!

Michael Scarmack's avatar

Last week Jasmine @ Substack, and other contributors, suggested using a subreddit as a posting place. I posted a the latest zoetic message there “Move Mall to High Mall” and know it was read on substack to the tune of 11 % of all views.

Being my first post it has not shown up for me to see, but I persist.

Today I added a poll in the same subreddit and to my surprise there are 440+ votes, with more commentary ever realized at the substack posts.

This is all good, as possibilities are materializing to convert these interested people into subscribers.

Jackie Dana's avatar

Reddit can be a GREAT source of traffic, but you have to be careful. Each subreddit has its own rules about posting links, and some are far more tolerant than others. I would read the subreddit and make sure you're in good company (e.g. other people post similar links) before doing it yourself. And try to include an image as it will show up a lot better.

By far my best traffic to my Substack was when I posted St. Louis history pieces in the St. Louis subreddit, to the point where I decided to spin that content off into its own Substack. So if you have content that a sizable subreddit will enjoy, it can be a gamechanger.

Holy Writ's avatar

Reddit is tricky but interesting, and you definitely have to pay attention to the subreddit's rules on self promotion. I'm not sure how much traffic r/substack gets; I haven't seen more than one or two upvotes for every promo post there. Good luck with it tho!

Jackie Dana's avatar

One other point — I would not use votes as a metric of success on Reddit if your goal is to build traffic to your Substack. I had one post get just a few upvotes there but then got thousands of views, a bunch of comments, and like 40 new subscriptions, because someone saw the post and shared with, I presume based on my traffic stats, a Facebook group. And it was THAT post that drove my traffic. But it would never have happened if I hadn't posted it on Reddit first.

Michael Scarmack's avatar

Yes … point taken

I am sure your commentary last week helped spark checking this avenue out, reddit

Jackie Dana's avatar

And I have to thank Nishant of Sneaky Art fame for nudging me towards Reddit. That's why this community is so great - we all learn from each other!

George Barnett's avatar

Congrats, Michael. I have been experimenting with Reddit over the past few months as well. Sometimes I get new subscribers, sometimes I get taken down by a moderator. There doesn't appear to be consistency across subreddits / moderators / use of flares, etc. I do see an appreciation for adding commentary beyond just a link to Substack...

Jackie Dana's avatar

Yeah every subreddit has completely different rules and what might get you banned from one sub might be welcomed with open arms by another. So it definitely pays to read the sub rules and read through existing posts to make sure yours fits in before posting. And even then cross your fingers because you just never know!

Ramona Grigg's avatar

I have no idea how Reddit works but that sounds great! I'll have to look into it. Is it hard to get started?

Cole Noble's avatar

Yes. Reddit hates self promotion, and bigger subreddits ban it explicitly.

To get an article to take off, I share it in communities where I'm already active, and commenting on other people's stuff to. I also only share stuff that I genuinely think the users there will get utility out of. I also shoot for the most specific community possible. If you get just a few upvotes, your post can snowball to the top of that community and stay there for days, as just a free ad for you.

Debra Goldyn's avatar

Hi Ramona! Reddit is sort of its own little world; here's a guide that may help: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/social-media/reddit-guide/

Good luck!

Michael Scarmack's avatar

Yes i think so, the jargon, the ads, the non communicating moderators,

George Barnett's avatar

Hi Ramona, I had no clue when I first joined. There is a subreddit called "NewtoReddit" (members are called newbs) and it has a lot of good advice. At its core, they want people to contribute content, advice, opinions, etc., and in return you accumulate a virtual currency they call karma. As your karma goes up, you get more access and permissions to post more content.

Rosie Hamer (HRH) 🌐👌's avatar

Love love this content. Plus Cheering on you Michel for materializing your creativity. 👏👏👏

Jan Peppler's avatar

Reddit did not work for me at all. I searched through so many categories, posted in some when I thought it was a good fit and the responses were all banal. Now I stay away from this. But glad to hear others are hitting an audience!

Jackie Dana's avatar

It's true that it isn't right for everyone. But it's always worth trying!

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Rosie Hamer (HRH) 🌐👌's avatar

That’s true, Jasmine. Thank you for posting.

Michael Estrin's avatar

Hi everyone! Wanted to share a little bit about my experience using threads. For the first year or so on Substack, I didn't use threads at all. I had this idea that they were better suited for nonfiction Substacks. Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. But lately I've been playing with threads and I've found that there is value for those of us who are writing fiction and creative nonfiction. The thing is, instead of asking about the story directly, I try to pick an aspect of the story and see if I can create a question out of that. By way of example, I wrote a silly story about trying a new frozen pizza brand, then a few days later, I did a thread asking readers to share their favorite frozen pizza recommendations. Tbh, I was pleasantly surprised by the response. Yes, I picked up a few new subscribers, but I think the real win was that it sparked a conversation among readers I'd never heard from before. Also, lots of readers who tend not to comment or email me hit that Like button, which was a nice way to let me know that my stories do hit the mark. That said, I'm still trying to refine my thread game, and just like writing a Substack, there's a learning curve there in terms of developing an understanding of how to spark a conversation.

Michael Scarmack's avatar

That is so, “a learning curve there in terms of developing an understanding of how to spark a conversation”

Elizabeth's avatar

What was the most popular brand? I love frozen pizza.

Michael Estrin's avatar

I can't say that a clear winner emerged. But the big win for me was some advice about adding extra toppings to my frozen pizza. I tend to buy Daiya because it's gluten free and vegan.

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Michael Estrin's avatar

Amy's got a lot of love from my readers!

Linda Tapp's avatar

Do threads usually work when planned with a specific date and time (like the one we are in now) or do they grow over time as people decide to comment on a particular post?

Michael Estrin's avatar

I'm playing with different times. My stories go out every Sunday, so I've tried threads on Mondays as a way of nudging readers about the latest story and I've also tried Friday threads as a way of priming the pump for the next story. I haven't settled on an ideal time yet. That said, people continue to engage with the thread throughout the week and beyond. There's definitely a long tail there.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

This reminds me, a newby, that The Dispatch asks a question at the end of most of its reports and gets lots of responses. Of course, it has 30,000 or so paid subscribers. In my online experience over the last almost 40 years, if 1% to 10% of lurkers participate in discussions, you're doing really well.

Constructing Confidence's avatar

How do you set up a thread? As a new post?

Michael Estrin's avatar

Hi Liana! To start a thread, just go to your dashboard. Just below "new post" is a button that says "new thread." There's a talk bubble icon on that button. Click it and go from there. You can publish the thread immediately or schedule it, just like a post.

Constructing Confidence's avatar

This is working at monumental me. I just posted a thread w/ immediate responses. People do want to engage. Nice!

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

The Dispatch since it went online has always put its questions above the comments section. People are decent, clean and their comments often are as good as the opening articles. That's just like at SeekingAlpha.com.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

I do my threads one a week on Wednesday. At first I got nothing. But they are growing in activity.

Linda Tapp's avatar

Maybe I'll try that instead of a live Zoom chat. Thx!

Kritika Kulshrestha's avatar

Hey Lloyd, Thanks for this tip. I checked out your Substack and I love what you've done with the homepage. How did you set up the entire Social Media section on the bottom right? Second, how does your subscribe button appear on the bottom right along with the entire description? You've also listed five categories on your homepage - Threads, Interviews, etc. How did you go about setting that up? Is there a feature? I have chosen the Magazine layout, too.

Michael Estrin's avatar

That's awesome, Lloyd! Have you changed your strategy in terms of what you write in the thread, or has it just slowly taken off?

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

I think it's just slowly gotten better. I try not ask deep questions. Keeping it simple seems to work best.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

The old rule of thumb for bloggers is that the more often you post, the more followers you get. I used to post five to 15 times a day on my defunct business blog. I'm posting daily now but may pick up the pace.

Annabel Ascher's avatar

I do this all the time. Sometimes after publishing and sometimes to introduce a topic I am about to write on.

David Gottfried's avatar

I posted a thread about sexuality and the response was woefully desultory. I would love constructive criticism re my thread. This is the thread. https://davidgottfried.substack.com/p/was-erica-jong-right-do-women-really/commen

Correction: This is the thread:

https://davidgottfried.substack.com/p/was-erica-jong-right-do-women-really/comments

It was posted on or around December 10, 2021. It was entitled: Was Erica Jong right. Do women really love fascists ?

Please tell me how the thread may have been deficient.

Michael Estrin's avatar

Hi David! I'm no expert, but my first thought was that's a pretty long thread. You'll notice that in the thread text editor, Substack suggests 1-3 sentences. I try to stick to that because people are busy, so a quick thread only takes a second to read and then they can take an action -- either leaving a comment, or pressing Like. Just my two cents. Hope that helps.

David Gottfried's avatar

Thanks for your idea. If my post was too long, I suppose it's because of my experiences in junior high school. I once espied a teacher grading papers. She was using a gram scale to weight them, and she awarded the more stellar scores to the most verbose papers. However, I think that even if my post was long, it was really fucking funny;.

Ramona Grigg's avatar

This is interesting. I tried a Thread for the first time last week and it messed up my comments, so I'm wondering how the Thread feature is any better or different than simply doing a Q&A in a regular post--which is what I eventually did.

I've tried to understand the difference and I just don't get it!

Michael Estrin's avatar

I don't think there's a huge difference. A thread is just quick and easy opportunity for engagement, rather asking people to engage with an entire post. By way of example, my stories take about 10 minutes to read, whereas my threads take about 10 seconds. People are busy, so the thread is just a faster forum for engagement.

Simon K Jones's avatar

This is VERY interesting. I haven't done threads at all, so this is really useful to know.

While I'm building subscribers nicely, I'm not getting as many comments on my chapters as I'd like, so this might be a great way to kickstart some conversation. Thanks!

Michael Estrin's avatar

You're welcome! Curious to know how threads do for you, if you give them a shot.

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Thanks for this Michael, will have to give it a go...

Cole Noble's avatar

That's awesome! I had a kind of meh thread last week, so I'm still trying to get the hang of it!

Jackie Dana's avatar

Some will spark discussion more than others, that's for sure. But who can resist talking about their favorite pizza? 🍕

Michael Estrin's avatar

I think that's part of it! Pizza was a very low barrier to entry. Asking people what they missed over the past two years, on the other hand, was interesting, but kind of a heavy lift for some folks.

Jackie Dana's avatar

I was ASTOUNDED by how I wrote about bagna cauda and a teensy town in Illinois and people came out of the woodwork to comment on one or both topics (and this was a regular post!). If you find people's sweet spot, so to speak, they won't ever shut up!

Joan DeMartin's avatar

That was such a cool post!

Jackie Dana's avatar

Thanks! It was a fun one to write. And who knew I would get all that info (and all the comments!) from just asking my dad, why does our Croatian family feature this Italian dip at all our family gatherings?

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

Yeah, heavy lifts don't work nearly as well.

Jackie Dana's avatar

See? Proves my point! Now go and floss... spinach teeth are gross. 🤣

Carol Sill's avatar

I'm still learning how to spark a conversation - of course the answer is just to ask questions!

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

I just asked, Would you buy $AAPL or $CAT based on their strong earnings? I also wrote that I'll update my morning post in comments later in the day after the markets have been open for awhile.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

It is best to ask one question a day. If you have more questions, ask them in the comments section and see what happens. I'm getting ideas. Thanks.

Michael Estrin's avatar

I think we're all always learning - or should be! And there's a lot of trial and error with questions.

Ava Love Hanna's avatar

I had to take 6 weeks off from my newsletter (writing humor while grieving was too hard) and now that I'm back I'm almost overwhelmed by all the new stuff. Feeling a little lost, but excited to jump back in. Can't wait to check out the new layout, word count, image sizes, etc.!

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

Grieving is hard. It happens more the more you age, sadly.

Heather Johnston Brebaugh's avatar

Welcome back to a place where you can have a lot of friends ready to help and listen.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

Always new tools to make Substack even better.

Abby Wynne's avatar

I hear you. Welcome back. I think we need to slow down when we are grieving.

Winta's avatar

Sorry for your loss, Ava. Welcome back :)

Ava Love Hanna's avatar

Thanks! Your newsletter looks great, just subscribed.

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

“It’s getting better all the tiiime…”

Great new changes this week. I’m excited to see the changes at work and use them myself. I checked my growth over time and it’s been slow and steady, literally one subscriber at a time. I’m hopeful, though and still trying.

What do you hope will be your biggest success this year? Mine? A single paid subscriber. 😌

How to Be an Artist: A Memoir's avatar

Me, too. Having a former career based on word-of-mouth with big art installation projects, I'm now redefining–yet again–and bowing to the necessity of marketing myself. So yes, one fan at a time is better than artistic oblivion.

Sarah Miller's avatar

Many of us are operating at literally one subscriber at a time, Chevanne, so don't let that discourage you!

T Van Santāna's avatar

It double commented then double deleted, so sorry about that!! Anyway, you have one now 😄😊

Kevin Alexander's avatar

1. More crossposting/interviews with other writers.

2. I'd like to figure out how to foster more engagement (comments, sharing, etc.)

3. Get to 10 paid subscribers by year-end

3A. Retain them all

4. Figure out how best to add things of value for paid subs w/o spamming their inboxes.

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

Spam is in the eye of the beholder. If they love what you do, they’ll look forward to your emails.

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Kevin Alexander's avatar

100 yes to this! I'd love to see that on mine as well.

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

Yes! I love engaging discussions. Really puts a new element in without the need for much structure.

Akshi's avatar

Just dropping by to say a quick but BIG THANK YOU for the new magazine layout. I am loving it. (Also the feature that allows using images in full width)! BIG THANKS!

Hal Walker's avatar

Me too. Love the Magazine layout!

The Civic Librarian's avatar

Same here! I just switched over and love it!

Anne Kadet's avatar

Thank you to whoever it was last week who suggested that when promoting on FB, Twitter or LI that you include a photo and description in the main post and then a link to your newsletter in the comments rather than the main post. It made a big difference in how much I showed up in other people's feeds. My posts got a lot more likes and comments.

Matthew Moran's avatar

Anne.. Ideally, if you include an image that is 1200 X 630, that is the ideal sharing image for Facebook and LinkedIn. At minimum, have the image be landscape, not portrait. I have a Canva template that I use.

That way, when the post is shared on social, a full-width image is displayed.

And yes, link to the article itself so you get the preview.

Minter Dial's avatar

is square shaped ok? (best for IG)

Matthew Moran's avatar

I didn't think that Instagram pulled images from links on other websites. On IG you post whatever images you want and then, yes, in that case, you use square or portrait formatted images/videos. Perhaps I'm wrong but in your posts on substack I would use a landscape image every time. A straight photo: 16:9 aspect ratio will work as well.

Minter Dial's avatar

Thanks Matthew. Will fix now! :)

Annabel Ascher's avatar

It might have been me. I always use that method and tell everyone I know. It is the only way to get eyes on your links on FB especially.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

I always link to my posts on twitter. No longer belong to FB because they don't recognize my face. @RealDonJohnson.

Mark Starlin's avatar

Three cheers for word count! Huzzah! Bravo! Well Done!

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Jackie Dana's avatar

I am so excited about the word count that I could just burst!

Plus I launched a new Substack this week called Unseen St. Louis (it's my 3rd 😂 ) and it's growing fast. So never doubt yourself (or the advice of your writer friends!) if you have a good idea.

Sharon Cortelyou's avatar

I am in St. Louis, I will check it out.

Jackie Dana's avatar

Awesome! Since it's not the one next to my name, it's https://unseenstlouis.substack.com

E. Jean Carroll's avatar

Congratulations, Jackie!!!

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Jackie Dana's avatar

Thanks Rose! Learning about weird (often random) local history has become a new passion/hobby of mine and it's a perfect fit for Substack.

CalculatedRisk by Bill McBride's avatar

My newsletter has many corporate readers. I've been asked if LinkedIn could be added to the share button. Thank you.

Atlas Katari's avatar

My newsletter is literally about LinkedIn marketing for freelancers, so it'd be helpful on my end, too!

Linda Tapp's avatar

I need this. I just signed up!

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

I would use this. Now I cut and paste the link.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

That would be helpful.

Kate McDermott's avatar

Many thanks to the Substack team for being so responsive to requests--magazine layout, video, wordcount,right-to-left script...and as always the community building. See you all at Substack Go!

🅟🅐🅤🅛 🅜🅐🅒🅚🅞's avatar

Substack does seem to listen to their customers. Appreciated for sure.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

The magazine format is just what I looked for when shopping for a publishing platform. Hope they add the ability to offer Excel files for downloading.

AP McColgan's avatar

Excited to say goodbye to my "Substack word count" Google doc! I know writing is about quality, not quantity, but it's soothing for a perfectionist like me to know that every post is about the same length, so thank you!!

Art A.'s avatar

Ahah, high five for word count docs!

YouTopian Journey's avatar

Substack I need help balancing growing a large newsletter with the newsletter actually making it into the inbox folders and not spam or promo folders. How does one balance growth and delivery to new subscribers?

Geoffrey Golden's avatar

One of the main criteria Gmail (and other providers) uses to determine if an email is spam is by seeing how its other users react to it. For example, if a lot of users ignore an email, Gmail's algorithm says, "This sender's email is probably spam. I should put their future emails into spam folders."

To grow your list and ensure delivery, I would regularly delete inactive subscribers (maybe once or twice a year), after giving them a chance to confirm they still want to be on your list. That way your emails will be less likely to be marked as spam / promotions.

Elizabeth's avatar

Geoffrey, I've wanted to do this, but I'm nervous because there are people who I know read it (they've talked with me about it) that Substack isn't catching. Should I just get over that?

Geoffrey Golden's avatar

That's up to you. I know Substack's stats aren't always accurate, so here's what I did, if it helps. I sent an email to anyone Substack said hadn't opened an email in months, and it read something like, 'If you want to keep getting these emails, reply yes.' If they replied, I kept them. Everyone else, I took off the list. I lost subs, but my open rate jumped significantly after that.

Cole Noble's avatar

Do you know at what threshold gmail starts to make this distinction?

Annabel Ascher's avatar

So many of the newsletters I subscribe to end up in my stupid "promotions" tab and I have to move them manually. I know this must happen to my subscribers too.

Paul Keefe's avatar

I wonder if this is where the value of double-opt in plays a part? I've been considering making this a part of my sign up process. But what I have found is that as long as I'm getting "qualified" subscribers consistently, and I continue to post consistently, my open rate has steadily been on the rise - although I do seem to be starting to plateau a bit. I think this is where an email list clean up and double opt-in might help with open rates.

YouTopian Journey's avatar

Some of the newsletters I follow don't have double opt in, have almost 25k subscribers (so they say) and always end up in my inbox.

Adam Cecil's avatar

Yeah, there’s no way for Google to know when you’re sending out a blast whether people have double opt-in or not.

Paul Keefe's avatar

Interesting. I would've thought that the action of clicking into a welcome email to select you want to opt into a newsletter would almost signal to email provider like gmail that it's a "safe" sender. I could be wrong though. Maybe someone more knowledgable in this can elaborate!

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YouTopian Journey's avatar

Let me know what you think. It goes to spam for different providers and to main for others.

Geoffrey Golden's avatar

I get some newsletters from folks like, "Adam from Newsletter Title." If that's not possible in Substack yet, might be a good feature.

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E. Jean Carroll's avatar

Sooooooo exciting, Bailey!!!!!!

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Sarah Miller's avatar

I think there is something to this -- I've had my full name in my sender name since day one (and only my full name -- i.e., not Sarah from My Newsletter, but Sarah Miller) and I've never had the issue that so many people report with open rates and/or messages ending up in Promotions.

Paul Keefe's avatar

Great tip. I wonder if this works for mine as my sender name is "In Progress by Paul Keefe".

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Kevin Alexander's avatar

Both of those have also worked well for me.

Abby Wynne's avatar

I guess cos you write the magic newsletter they pick up the word newsletter and you’re done for!

Aziz Sunderji's avatar

Folks, if anyone needs help with graphs and charts, I'd be happy to help (for free—i don't know, maybe just give me a credit somewhere?). You can see some of my work at sunderji.substack.com.

Linda Tapp's avatar

I just signed up! I write about communicating visually all the time and created and shared a small eBook on using infographics with my subscribers a few months ago. There must be a way we can do something together. Let's stay in touch!

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

Back in the mid 1980s we started our marketing communications business using Ready Set Go on the Mac Plus.

Cole Noble's avatar

do you know how to make animated graphs and charts?

Aziz Sunderji's avatar

I do! I don't use them too often in my stuff, since they can easily distract from the message. But yeah, I sometimes animate charts using Adobe AfterEffects. You can see an example here: https://youtu.be/CmsWSQtgLfM

Cole Noble's avatar

That's awesome! Can I reach out to you for a future project? I'm working on a documentary and the excel charts don't really look good in the final project

Emily Miller's avatar

I loved the substack post yesterday on free speech, trust and censorship. I think it would be so helpful to use in marketing for all of us who struggle to explain the subscription concept to people who are used to getting things “free” online. So if there are ways to adapt it and put it in buttons and on emails, let me know. I want to send it everywhere !

Adam David Hrankowski (Writer)'s avatar

I liked that post too. More censorship undermines trust. It only backfires.

David Gottfried's avatar

What substack post are you referring to. Where did you find it. I wonder if there is a page, that I don't know about, which is a compilation of major, or very popular, or especially perceptive posts

moviewise 🎟's avatar

This is the article:

Society has a trust problem. More censorship will only make it worse.

https://on.substack.com/p/society-has-a-trust-problem-more

Hanne Winarsky's avatar

Emily, glad to hear it resonated with you. You can adapt and use that language wherever you would like in your own Substack—in call outs in your post (use the "Subscribe/Share with caption" button), or in email headers or footers, for example.

Emily Miller's avatar

I don’t want to plagiarize the excellent writers of the post ! But perhaps I can take a few words like you describe and make them into they buttons. I’d love to see substack use it in marketing for all of us too because the distrust in government, media, SM, etc really gives us an opportunity to fill the void.

Holy Writ's avatar

If you haven't already, I'd highly recommend signing up for George Saunders' Substack called "Story Club." He's an absolute genius, and he offers fabulous (and free) advice for writers. Particularly, he takes you inside his head, so that you get to watch him think his way through the process. It’s really helped me trust my intuition and pay attention to the craft of writing well, rather than simply following a quotidian list of dos and don'ts.

I’d recommend this post as a good place to start, particularly the section called “The Meter-in-My Head is How I Make My Living.” Hope it helps!

https://georgesaunders.substack.com/p/first-thohts-on-reviision

Carol Sill's avatar

Story Club is great - gets the writing mind in full gear

Melanie Newfield's avatar

Hi everyone. The events arranged by Substack are great, but the timezones often aren't ideal for those of us in some parts of the world. So I'm organising a network of people around the Pacific region - that's Australia, New Zealand, Pacific nations and anywhere on the Pacific rim including SE Asia - basically anyone in time zones from Asia to the American west coast. I'm having a Zoom meetup on Sunday. Here's the link if you're in the right time zones and would like to register. https://lu.ma/ruxv1e42

Clyde Rathbone's avatar

That is so great, Melanie! I'm from Australia and I know how difficult it is to align with the US timezone.

Jackie Dana's avatar

Rock on Melanie! We've been having great luck with our fiction writers Substack Fictionistas, so it might be something to build as well if you haven't already. It's a great way to stay in touch AND talk about common issues.

Sarah Miller's avatar

I don't need this myself, but it's awesome that you're doing this for the community, Melanie!

Winston Malone's avatar

Thank you so much for adding word count Substack!!!

Michael Jensen's avatar

Three cheers for the word count!

Jackie Dana's avatar

Make that three squared!

Mike Sowden's avatar

And another three! So great to see.

Heather Johnston Brebaugh's avatar

Thank you Substack Team for the new features. You continue to listen. Loved listening to and seeing Patti Smith on vocals.

How to Be an Artist: A Memoir's avatar

As a professional artist first (50+ years) and published writer second (11 yrs), I'm looking forward to visually clean video posts without the YouTube chaos. Video, including time-lapse drawings, helps tell the stories of creatures and features I write about. So thank you.

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

And you get to be in less places without splitting commitments to platforms. I’d love to see that.

Glenn Cook's avatar

Hi, everyone. Like many of you, feeling a little overwhelmed, as opposed to over nourished (that was November and December). Glad to see the word count on here. Also would be interested in a feature that tells you how long it will take to read a particular piece. Especially with the emails, that could be helpful.

Debra Goldyn's avatar

Hi Glenn! You can try this free tool: Read-O-Meter

https://niram.org/read/

I think the suggestion came from the Deplatformable Newsletter last week; it may have just been in the comments and not an article: https://pau1.substack.com/

Hope it helps!

Debra Goldyn's avatar

Also, the average reading speed is 200 to 250 words per minute, so you could use the new word count feature and then divide by 225.

Brad Kyle's avatar

I post my article links on LinkedIn, Glenn...and, when you post, they automatically place a minutes-to-read notice on it! Whether it's accurate or not, dunno. Whether it can help you (if you want to join LI, or even link there if you do) after the fact is up to you.

Short of 'Stack coming to the rescue, maybe LI could be a first sharing-post for you, and you could add their time suggestion to, at least the top of your posts for future direct readers....but, that does you absolutely no good for subscribers, who, by then, have already received your piece!! Hey, I'm trying!!!

Melanie Newfield's avatar

I used this to calculate word count for my newsletters

YouTopian Journey's avatar

Curious to where others syndicate their content to drive growth to their substack? I have syndication on one website, looking for others. Medium I have found to be useless.

Jimmy Doom's avatar

I came to Substack because Medium was a nightmare. Met some cool writers, so not a complete waste of time, but glad to have moved to Substack.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

I've wasted too much time on Medium.

YouTopian Journey's avatar

I posted a few articles for SEO, not much happened other than helping with that.

Hanne Winarsky's avatar

Something you might consider are content collaborations with other interesting Substack writers—guest posts, interviews, discussion threads, Q&As, etc—with writers who have readers that might not yet know about your publication and represent a "new" audience for you (a related subject, or a similar writer in the space, or a dissimilar writer that you just really would love to do something with!). Those readers who are already subscribed to and following other Substack writers can be easier to convert to subscribers for you than folks not yet in the ecosystem.

Kevin Alexander's avatar

I crosspost some to Medium, but not a whole lot. Would love to hear what's working for others.

Paul Keefe's avatar

Keep the updates comin'...love it!

Would love to have the ability to have a longer automated email sequence for new subscribers.

For example, if I have a paid member I'd love to be able to have a set sequence of 2-4 emails to onboard them slowly over time.

One welcome email is good, but I feel like having the option to set up a couple more would be even better!

Also, the PDF upload feature in my welcome email doesn't seem to work. Anyways else experiencing this?

Atlas Katari's avatar

I have an idea for a free course to encourage people to sign up for the newsletter — but it absolutely relies on an automated email sequence... And an entirely different sign-up form.

Sarah Miller's avatar

Paul, are you dragging and dropping your PDF into your welcome email?

Paul Keefe's avatar

Sure am! But still nothing :(

Sarah Miller's avatar

Weird! I offer my paid subscribers an immediate PDF download in my welcome email but I set it up before Substack allowed PDFs, so I used Gumroad. It's one additional step for people to take, which isn't ideal, but might be a useful workaround if you can't figure this out.

Paul Keefe's avatar

Okay so they click on a link and go to Gumroad to download? That’s similar to what I do. I actually just created a custom button and linked to my PDF in Google drive by using the sharing link feature in Drive!

I don’t think this is any more “work” per se but I’d like the PDF feature to appear as it seems more clear and “accessible”

Sarah Miller's avatar

Correct. I wanted to use Gumroad so I could price something, but then offer paid subscribers a coupon code to zero out the balance. (I.e., herw is your download worth $5, which you are getting for free as a gift for becoming a paid subscriber.)

Paul Keefe's avatar

I like it! Thanks for sharing this tip Sarah :)

Hal Walker's avatar

Looking forward to the start of Substack Go in February!

Jackie Dana's avatar

It's a program Substack just launched to bring writers together. The first cohort has already been chosen, but we're going to make it so successful that Substack has no choice but to offer it regularly!

Punit Thakkar's avatar

Great features! Thanks for adding them.

Here's some uplifting music for all my fellow writers!

https://open.spotify.com/track/6aG9xp2yV5mgPxKMpGb86v?si=SNHuy3bCSvaeu3fgzoqZaQ

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Awesome! Hope you like it 🤠

Constructing Confidence's avatar

Engagement question: I just started posting my new newsletter on substack on Mondays and I am so excited. This week's post resulted in several people whom I know personally texting me such positive responses - how can I encourage people to like and comment ON the substack post itself?

Jan Peppler's avatar

ah yes! I had a lot of those personal emails and texts as well. Then I started adding "Leave a Comment" buttons inside the post and that helped. My likes and comments have gone up. Not huge (I still only have about 250 subscribers and get 5-9 likes and maybe 4 comments) but it's something. Also consider adding the "share" button. I've been really surprised to learn that some folks love a post but never tell me, I only find out later b/c they shared it. Just know that more folks are reading than your likes and comments show!

Anne Byrn's avatar

Agree. If it’s a strong post, I’ll put the SHARE button right at the top.

Constructing Confidence's avatar

thank you! will try the share button in-line

Sarah Miller's avatar

I experienced this too for a long time, but then something changed -- I think it was when I went from more subscribers that I *don't* know personally than ones that I do.

Also, I started adding in the "Like & Comment" button more often.

Anne Byrn's avatar

Good idea. They need to be prompted!

Constructing Confidence's avatar

Thanks! I think you are on to something w/ people I don't know.

Linda Tapp's avatar

99% of my comments always come to me by email. I think my readers are shy:)

Meredith's avatar

Well also keep in mind that your subscribers are actually getting an email from you, so it may be counterintuitive for them to go to the website to comment.

Anne Byrn's avatar

Mine are cooks and they are not shy but they won’t comment!

Constructing Confidence's avatar

You are right - this is a personal development newsletter so they may be shy!

Anne Byrn's avatar

Good luck! My sister texts and replies to the email but does not comment. What I do now is flatter them with - such a great idea- and ask them to go say that in comments. 🤣

Sophia Efthimiatou's avatar

Hi Liana! Wonderful! Perhaps add a line at the end of your post inviting people to a general discussion in the comments--and you can engage with them there. Also add the button "leave a comment" at the end of your post (you will find this in your editor. Another way to go about is to try and do a post that is *just* a discussion thread (pick "new thread" to create it and let people know that you will be responding.

Constructing Confidence's avatar

Ohh these are excellent ideas, thank you. This is a personal development newsletter so they may be shy!

Kevin Alexander's avatar

I get people emailing me directly. I love it. if they don;t want to comment on the post itself, maybe they'd be willing to share it?

Pat Willard's avatar

Hi all, I'm totally confused about one thing--I have a high open rate percentage--it's gone from like 15% when I started to consistently 60/70% in the 9 months I've been on Substack. But they don't translate into actual subscribers. It's a miracle if I get one or two a month. What am I doing wrong or can do?

Jackie Dana's avatar

You're not doing anything "wrong" if you have a 70% open rate. But if you want to grow your subscriptions, you'll need to find places to tell people about your Substack. Social media, personal networks, Reddit, FB groups, local groups, even these Office Hours threads, can help open you up to new potential readers!

Pat Willard's avatar

yeah, I know. I'm trying not to be as sucky as I am with social media. I sort of get overwhelmed after finally finishing a piece and posting it. What do you mean by local groups?

Sophia Efthimiatou's avatar

Hi Pat! That is a wonderful open rate indeed! From a quick look I see that you have not been doing posts exclusively for paid subscribers. Those posts should be a sort of backstage pass (so the majority of your substack should remain free), but you can send an email announcing that you are planning to introduce some posts behind the paywall and explain what you plan to do for paid subs. Then you can start locking posts. You can also use the paywall feature in your editor and send an email meant for your paid subscribers to the free list at the same time, cutting it off wherever you want. This is a great conversion tool, though perhaps don't use it too often!

Linda Tapp's avatar

I need to figure this out too. I'm struggling with how to use the paywall. I send two newsletters with the same name every month - one to paid and one to free subscribers. I would love to send one with the content that I include in the paid at the bottom of the free email but behind a paywall. Does this make sense and is it possible?

Pat Willard's avatar

Thanks Sophia. This is really helpful! I just started the paid option with a soft announcement to work out the last kinks in what I'll be offering before I did a full on marketing of it. I feel I'm ready to do that now and am going full paid next months and will follow your advice!

Debra Goldyn's avatar

That's an awesome open rate - congrats! As for more subs, maybe try letting people know what they'll receive in your Subscribe caption. "For only $3.33 a month, you get an exclusive postscript plus a recipe every week, and 3 chapbooks a year." Also, if you know you've got a popular recipe coming up, you could tease that in one of your free posts.

Pat Willard's avatar

Thanks, it's been exciting to watch it grow but so frustrating. I did a soft pay option in December with an offer of a booklet I printed up of a cooking manuscript Eudora Welty wrote but never published. That got me a few but then personal stuff (i.e. family full of Covid) got in the way and I stopped promoting. I'm going to start up again next week and really market it. And your suggestion is great! I'll do that too. I'm so thankful for the support from all of you!

Debra Goldyn's avatar

Hope everybody is healthy, and good luck with promoting!

Pat Willard's avatar

Thank you again for your help...and for subscribing. I really appreciate it

The Civic Librarian's avatar

New Substack writer here! I'm a librarian by trade, and I publish a weekly newsletter all about accessing U.S. government information: https://theciviclibrarian.substack.com/. I use current events to choose the resources I highlight each week. Does anyone co-write regularly with experts in a field you're featuring? I'm thinking about starting to do that about once a month (e.g. I have a friend who is an astronomer - thinking that we could collaborate on a piece about NASA). Thinking it could be a good way to grow my audience and enrich the information I offer.

Donald E. L. Johnson's avatar

The Dispatch has a lot of employees who write for the newsletter. It is great, and I just renewed.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

Welcome! You'll find lots of help here.

The Civic Librarian's avatar

Thank you - and I'm already finding that to be true!

L.L. Sontag's avatar

To me substack is better for a one person platform. You could do a group project, but it is really hard to get participation on a regular basis, even if you pay people.

L.L. Sontag's avatar

Maybe featuring the expert on a podcast might be better. Substack has really helped my podcasts listens go up!

The Civic Librarian's avatar

Also, I'm still working on getting my home page set up and figuring out the best ways to describe the newsletter to newcomers - feedback on that is definitely welcome if you want to take a look!

Linda Tapp's avatar

I just struggled with accessing BLS info this morning and my readers frequently use government data. Maybe there is as way for us to co-author something:)

The Civic Librarian's avatar

Linda, I just subscribed and look forward to taking a look at your work. A collaboration would definitely be cool! I've been wanting to feature BLS tools.

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It is! I just signed up for your newsletter and know I'll be using the info you offer. Thanks!

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Thank you, Joan! I just signed up for yours as well and think that I can definitely say the same! Great topic.

The Civic Librarian's avatar

Thanks Maggie! It's one of those areas that can feel really esoteric, but one of my goals with the newsletter is to show folks that these tools and resources can be used in approachable and interesting ways.

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Thank you Jasmine, I'll definitely take a look at these! I like the sound of an interview series, especially.

Karen Tibbals's avatar

I just figured out something. I didn't realize that I could see the images people put in their newsletter if I clicked on the title and went to the substack website. It's a much better reading environment than what comes in my email. Questions: 1. Should I put something in my newsletter to explain that to people? 2. Is that the reason why I get higher readership than the actual counts of my subscribers? Because people are being counted twice, once from the email and once from the webpage?

Jackie Dana's avatar

Because I see images in my own email, that's something I hadn't even considered. It might be something to add to my welcome email, and to my image-heavy posts. Thanks for the idea!

Matthew Moran's avatar

I often add a note at the start of my post suggesting they "display" images in their email for the full experience. I give the system time to send out all the emails then I go in and remove that line as it is not needed for those who get to my post via social or some other link.

Jonathan @ Substack's avatar

Hi Karen!

1. Emails should include images without needing to view the post on the website; you may need to let your email client "allow" or "display" the images.

2. The "Total Views" stat on a post will count all opens and web views so yes if someone views the post once on the web and once on email, both views will be counted.

Annabel Ascher's avatar

I have a writing schedule. It is even in my calendar. But this last week news both personal and public threw me off course. The rumors of war and huge surge on the one side and several local Covid deaths including someone i know and liked very much on the other.

What I write is personal and visceral and flows from heart and mind to the page. I will try again tomorrow. Guerney Halleck tells young Paul Atreides in Dune that mood means nothing when it comes to fighting. But I am not sure that applies here. On the other hand, if left to mood entirely I might have no schedule at all, and I must sing for my supper.

Raju Tai's avatar

Annabel, I hear you. I have no solution as I am in the same boat when it comes to finding the balance between honouring the present and honouring the plan for future made in the past. Isn't it so confusing? I am always in awe of people who write and post at a no-matter-what consistency.

Lloyd Lemons's avatar

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. It is difficult. I too have had several recent tragedies in my family making it very difficult to write. But I push forward and hope what comes out will be useful to someone.

Chevanne Scordinsky's avatar

Sorry to hear this. Take time away if you need to care for yourself.

Michael Robert's avatar

I'm curious to see how video gets used. Given the opportunity for revenue to be created via YT and embedding it in Substack, I wonder what the benefit of having natively hosted videos in Substack is vs YouTube.

Abby Wynne's avatar

Put it behind the paid subscriber only wall and it saves the creator a lot of hassle. That’s how I see it anyway.

Michael Fritzell's avatar

Great news on the word counter! I also like the new "See the discussion" button

Dr Sheila Pryce Brooks's avatar

I'm new to Substack and thought I'd put together a content calendar so that I could plan and prepare in advance. Is there anywhere that I can get a list of content ideas. Things like: Do an Interview, QandA, Article etc. Thank you.

Andrea Gyorody's avatar

Love this idea. I took a look at your Substack and some other formats that might work well, off the top of my head:

- Guest post

- Republishing something seen elsewhere (obviously with permission)

- Listicle

- Recommendations (products, links to apps, books, podcasts, etc.)

- Photo essay

- Advice column

Anne Kadet's avatar

Oh I love advice column idea. So fun!!!

Dr Sheila Pryce Brooks's avatar

Wow. This is awesome. I'm excited already. The advice column looks good and something I could do weekly. How could I do that - as a thread, like this one?

Andrea Gyorody's avatar

As a thread or as a post, if you solicited questions and then chose one or two to respond to.

Dr Sheila Pryce Brooks's avatar

I'm definately going to include this as a weekly part of my content. Thank you

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Dr Sheila Pryce Brooks's avatar

Thanks. I see that there's a lot of other things to consider as well. Very interesting.

Matthew Moran's avatar

I am a songwriter/musician but am also an author - traditionally published (not vanity, though not against it). I had created a demarcation between my music mailing list and my other writing. In hindsight this greatly hindered what I was sending out and how frequently I published.

Reading Jeff Tweedy's substack changed that for me.

https://jefftweedy.substack.com/

I gave my mailing list subscribers a "warning" of sorts. I explained that I was returning to my pure writing roots - ie: songs, poetry, essays, stories - are all what I do. Lucky them, eh?

My fear was that I would lose subscribers. Of course, subscribers you don't send to are like not subscribers. ;-)

My fear was realized... Over the past 3 weeks I've lost 8 subscribers. But, on a single day I gained 14 for my post about addiction. I realize that, ultimately, 100 subscribers who want you in their inbox is better than 5,000 who can take you or leave you. It's an important and liberating realization.

I wrote a little about this in my "Happy & Discontented" post this morning. It was written in response to a friend's blog yesterday about three questions you can ask yourself in order to boost your happiness.

In any case, I work in technology - data analytics and content creation - and am happy to answer any questions. And to the substack staff - please add embedded mp3's as a media upload type. ;-)

Jackie Dana's avatar

You have to just do you, so to speak, and let people sort themselves out. Some people won't like change and they'll unsubscribe, but if you feel like what you're doing has value and merit and you're being true to yourself, you'll end up gaining more subscribers than you lose. Congrats on taking the risk and keep on going!

Jan Peppler's avatar

That's fantastic!! I continue to struggle with how much of me (my own story, personal stuff) to share in my posts but time and time again the more honest, authentic, and personal I get, the more folks appreciate the post. So go with your gut. Stay true to the fullness of who you are!

Matthew Moran's avatar

Due to my writing and, to a lesser degree, music, I have always been a public person. However, that being said, I never share conflict publicly and rarely share any serious trials of life. In part, it is how I was raised. My parents were pragmatist and both worked in medicine. My mom, specifically, worked as an ICU nurse. Complaining was not tolerated.

Recently, I shared publicly about my son's health challenges brought on by his fentanyl addiction and IV drug use. But even in that, I am really not seeking anything akin to sympathy. I asked my son before sharing and try diligently to be real - to share the fears I and my family (ex wife, his sibliings, etc.) struggle with. But more as a reminder and perhaps encouragement to others struggling with the same.

Also, I am always prone to discuss how we deal with it to, hopefully, offer some direction.

Honest but not whiny... or, if you are whiny, whine but call yourself out on it. It's a balancing act.

Cole Noble's avatar

I have a plea for substack. Would you consider expanding the newsletter categories to include "outdoors." I feel like mine doesn't really fit well into the existing categories on the platform.

Joan DeMartin's avatar

I do think adding that category is a great idea—not only timely, but can cross over with many other categories, like the environment, climate change, impoverished not having access to the outdoors...

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I want to run a free writing contest on substack. Has anyone ever run a contest on substack? The thought would be to teach a lesson and have user submit 250 words based on the lesson. I would run it once a month for a year (12 winners). They win a craft book and an Amazon card. Thoughts/ Help?

Linda Tapp's avatar

I've run contests but not for writing. I present a challenge to my readers and if they want to enter, they click on a link where they can submit their ideas. I use Typeform for this but any survey provider would work.

Sarah Miller's avatar

I run giveaways all the time. Different beast, same concept.

Sarah Miller's avatar

I've used two different methods for giveaways entries: "Hit reply on this email with _____" (e.g., the age of your child and current interests, in situations where I am handpicking a book to gift) and, "Leave a comment to enter telling me ______" (e.g. the name of your favorite winter book, etc). Both have worked, insofar as people have entered, though I'm finding now that I much prefer asking people to leave comments as it fosters subscriber-to-subscriber discussion that wouldn't happen if it was behind the scenes, over email. Then I use Google's random number generator to choose a winner, notify the person, ask for their address, and mail them their books.

Elizabeth's avatar

I did a bingo game? Which was a contest, but not quite like what you're talking about.

Liz Dubelman's avatar

What were your biggest problems?

David Gottfried's avatar

If you are sponsoring a contest, please let me know. I am eager to participate

Jackie Dana's avatar

Would you publish the stories on Substack? If so, you will need to get the writers' consent, and you may want to have a post that explains rights, as most contests do that (like non-exclusive 1st publication rights, etc.).

Liz Dubelman's avatar

Yes - that's in the TOC. Thank you.

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I'm at the point now where I have truly engaged paid folks, and about 350 people as free subs, and most of the free-s are between 3-5 stars for participation. I have two free posts per month as archives, and leave all new posts as free for 30 days...so as long as one is keeping up with the reading, they can read everything, except old material. I think it's time to change this up and have paid-only posts.

Does anyone have any other thoughts for encouraging those 350?? I already tried a "deal" just after the holidays, and only 2 went for it. And said I wouldn't do it again until next December...so that's off the table. (And didn't do much anyway!)

I change up my "reminders" frequently. If they weren't doing so much opening/reading, I'd be worried about my content... but they are reading; they're just not paying :)

Sarah Miller's avatar

Good for you, Alison!

Fwiw, I have the same issue when I run deals -- 1-2 takers, tops. I seem to be most successful at converting free-to-paid subscribers when I remind people less (but not never). Don't even ask me to explain why -- I can't figure it out. I just keep trying different things and seeing how they work.

Alison Acheson's avatar

Yes, I agree. The hard sell thing is not only not natural... but doesn't work. Like everything else in life (!) it appears to be about timing. and I guess that's where the nature of "online" is interesting... because without a human in front of me, "timing" is a challenge. There's a thing of dignity, and not grovelling, that's important. "Timely reminder," I guess.

One thing I have done--and maybe it's a bit brutal!--but when people write to me to ask about one-on-one editing, I now ask them to be paid subscribers. For two reasons--I need more subs, but I also need less editing in my life, as I want to focus on my own writing and the newsletter, and narrow to those two income streams.

Interesting, Sarah, to hear about your "deal" results. It says something about what we're offering, maybe...? That they do care for the content.

And I love your content!! As a children's writer, THANK YOU for growing readers!

Sarah Miller's avatar

Alison, I always appreciate your support -- you make me feel like I'm doing something worthwhile ❤️

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You are! I worked in an MA in Children's Literature program for years (an amazing 4 discipline, one of a kind! I was so blessed to take part!) and literature for children is special. Books and stories have the power to strengthen and ignite the imagination and so much that creates healthy people in our world. HUGE!

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Alison Acheson's avatar

I do a monthly summary on the 1st... but I like this idea of one-attached-to-one, thank you!

Annette Laing's avatar

Ooh, happy to see word count! Any chance of returning the "nearing/over email limit" to the bottom bar? I'm having to scroll up and down....

Andrea Gyorody's avatar

I know what happens, but I'd still like to avoid it as I would guess that a lot of people do not click at the bottom to view the entire message! And there's good stuff down there!

Annette Laing's avatar

You're right. There's a reason journalists worry about copy that's "below the fold". Mind you, I doubt my readers would want any more than the current limit, and it forces me to edit more closely.

Andrea Gyorody's avatar

Oh for sure. I write about art, however, and images often push that email limit more than words do (because it's not just about word count but the size of the email, and images are "bigger" than words).

Annette Laing's avatar

Aha! Got it. Yes, that makes a huge difference.

Andrea Gyorody's avatar

Yes! I'm also still having issues with this function. With one newsletter I write, the editor said I was over the limit but my test email didn't cut off the text at the bottom. With another newsletter I write, I did not get the limit warning and the text WAS cut off at the bottom. Having a reliable measure would be really helpful.

Carolyn McBride 🏳️‍🌈🇨🇦's avatar

I'd like to thank everyone that had a hand in the censorship post yesterday. Every word seemed open, fair and well-considered. My newsletter 'Brace Yourself' can sometimes touch on topics some folks don't want to consider, so I really appreciate Substack's approach. We writers can breathe a sigh of relief knowing we are a little less policed. At least on this corner of the web!

David Gottfried's avatar

Is there something I am missing. You wrote, "I'd like to thank everyone that had a hand in the censorship post yesterday." Apparently a bunch of people "had a hand in" a post. Was some sort of collaborative post drafted. I simply am trying to take advantage of what substack has to offer, but I fear I am in the dark about major projects and activities sponsored by substack.

Roger Clapper's avatar

I don't often make it to these Office Hours, but when I do it is very informative. I am still trying to grow my readership. Most of what I have is people I had in my email list. Although, from time to time, I get one that gets a lot of views. My readership is, I guess minimal. I am still relatively new and unorganized. I have averaged between 50-100 readers for some of my more recent posts. It's a little disheartening as I see most of the people here have thousands of readers. I am not in it for fame and fortune. I like research and I like to vent (mostly sarcastically) through my writing. I try to be creative and entertaining, but other than numbers, I don't get any comments or feedback. That is often useful and always motivating. I'm not sure I have a question, just reading through all the ideas and suggestions and trying to integrate them. Thank you for answering many of the questions I didn't know I had. Keep writing!!

Sarah Miller's avatar

Hi Roger -- I definitely do not have thousands of readers. I'm still at less than 300, and I've been writing since May 2020, twice a week without exception. I also have awesome subscribers who engage with my work (even if I don't always "see" the engagement -- e.g., maybe they just tell me once in awhile that they checked a book out of the library for their kids based on my recommendation and loved it), some of whom even pay me for it. This is just to say: you're the only one who can determine what success means to you. And if you're enjoying yourself, try not to get too down. Keep going, keep trying things, keep putting yourself out there.

Jan Peppler's avatar

Sarah - love your newsletter. I don't have kids but I just sent a text to 2 friends who do and who used to be in my book club so maybe they'll subscribe!

Sarah Miller's avatar

Oh, thank you so much, Jan! You just made my day.

Ron Parks's avatar

I just moved my blog and email to Substack. Prior I was on WordPress and MailChimp. I find Substack to be a better experience for my writing and getting a newsletter out. A question is that my prior newsletter would have a summary of new posts and link back to the WordPress blog, but was wondering if it might be more effective with Substack to just do one post per newsletter. I have avoided this as my pieces tend to be long? Anyway, trying to adapt to the new landscape with my Mind Wise newsletter/blog.

Sarah Miller's avatar

Maybe you could skip the summary, Ron, and just offer the headlines of the last few posts at the end of your new one? That way people don't have to read more content but you're still helping them see what they may have missed (or read more about similar topics you've already covered).

Jackie Dana's avatar

I like this idea. One post per email (which then translates to one article) but links to others that can help give older content a boost.

Emily Miller's avatar

I wrote an exclusive last week on a Gold Star family suing Alec Baldwin for $25 million. I was the only reporter with the case filing and interviews with the family and lawyer.

BUT the story for picked up by every media outlet and not one linked back to me or gave attribution. The AP wrote it and said a local paper had it first and linked to it but the date stamp is after mine. I have tweeted for a week that these outlets have to give credit to my substack but they just ignore me.

This is the fourth time my exclusives on substack are taken by national media with no credit or links.

What can be done to force media to credit substack as a journalism outlet and abide by the ethics of attribution?

Anne Byrn's avatar

That is a great question! Are you on Twitter?

Anne Byrn's avatar

Because that is a good place where you could call them out and tag them and people see it. In the food world it’s been used that way when people do not attribute a recipe to someone who created it.

Emily Miller's avatar

Yes I have 87k followed and a verified mark and the media outlets still would not credit me.

Brian McGlinchey's avatar

There's nothing we can do to force other journalists to credit our scoops: It's certainly a moral obligation, but not a legal one. I feel your pain, Emily, as I've had the same experience.

In the worst instance, the Washington Post's David Fahrenthold had a long conversation with me to learn about my reporting on a scandal in which Saudi lobbyists tricked U.S. veterans into lobbying against an anti-terrorism law. I even did some follow-up work to help him out, so you can imagine my feelings when his story gave no acknowledgement and had a lead that would give WaPo readers the impression it was his scoop.

I emailed him about his lapse, and he tweeted an acknowledgement. That's something, but nothing like being credited in the article itself. If and when it happens again, I'll likely take my complaint up the chain of command at whatever outlet is involved and ask for the online version to be updated.

Emily Miller's avatar

I’ve asked substack for a forum or thread just for this topic so all of us who are reporting original news can band together so when we can tag each other on the tweets to make sure they know we have some power.

Also I think substack could give us some wording for those of us who are reporters to use in our articles to say, credit back or attribution or links etc.

Finally this is why I don’t like that substack lets anyone read our stories without putting in an e-mail. You would have receipts from Farenholdt reading your work if you show the minute he did it.

Cole Noble's avatar

Unfortunately you can't do much. The same thing actually happened to me this week -- CNN did a story that I broke last fall, about a group of climbers working to be the first all-Black team to summit Everest. No credit.

Unless they actually plagiarize, you're hosed. What outlets will often do is try to reverse engineer your story so that they don't have to cite it.

Emily Miller's avatar

I’m sorry to hear that. I would love to read yours so can you add the link ?

I think the big media outlets are taking advantage of substack not being an accredited news outlet. I’m hoping the guys running this will start to call out the media when it was first written here. They could use their twitter account for that.

Also we should find a way to band together reporters and writers to retweet or collaborate when we see each other’s stories taken. Power in numbers.

Damian's avatar

Hello Everyone! I have been free posting a science/philosophy newsletter since August, with a fairly consistent readership. Is it typical that I haven't had any comments or likes and is it possible that readers can subscribe to a free post? in the stats, it says most of the readers are viewing the newsletter by e-mail; what does this mean exactly. Thanks for any help; I'm an old timer from the typewriter age more than the computer age but I'm willing to listen and learn. To substack; Thanks for listing updates on previous posts; I had asked about it and you responded. This is helpful to know if new readers are looking back at older posts.

Jackie Dana's avatar

Sooo, people who subscribe can read your post as an email or click through to read it online. Others like me, who aren't subscribers, can read it on the web. If you want comments and likes, make sure to include a comment button from time to time, and maybe ask people questions about your post that will inspire them to reply.

David Gottfried's avatar

That's a great suggestion. Please tell me: Where are the comment buttons and the subscribe buttons.

Jackie Dana's avatar

Under the "More" link in the edit window, there's a dropdown that includes various button options. Honestly I would experiment with them as they may do things you wouldn't expect! And you can always delete them if you don't like them.

David Gottfried's avatar

I used to be a gutsy guy, but for some weird reason I regress to toddler like timidity when I sit in front of my computer. People always talk about "playing" around with the options on the menus, but I fear committing some shattering, irrevocable act

Jackie Dana's avatar

Well, you can't really "break" anything with Substack assuming you don't click on the delete your Substack button. At least within the edit window, you certainly can't. What I would suggest is you fire up a new post (without anything important you don't want to lose) and click around on all of your options in the window and settings to see what they do. That's the best way to learn things!

David Gottfried's avatar

I hope I remember to check your stuff out.

Many people, with a poor understanding of either science or philosophy, presume that these disciplines inhabit entirely different worlds and that never the twain shall meet. Of course they never heard of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and the way that served as an impetus to existentialist thought

I am also a man of the typewriter age. I am utterly baffled and disgusted by the digital world as I have a puny readership which I am at pains to expand. Pardon me if I sound like a conceited son of a bitch, but I think my content is head and shoulders above the drivel of the little children, who went to school to study communications ad nauseum, who seem to be intellectually bankrupt visa vis literature, philosophy and, above all, so terribly lacking in guts. Man, sorry if I sound like a dyspeptic SOB from hell.

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David Gottfried's avatar

Bailey, your responses are informative.

Anne Kadet's avatar

One new feature I'd love to see: something that tells you not only when you're over the email size limit, by how much. Then I'd know whether to cut an entire item or just try to trim here and there. Or does this already exist in some fashion?

Sarah Miller's avatar

YES. I have been trimming and trimming and trimming one upcoming post incessantly for days, trying to get under the email limit -- it would be so helpful to know how close I am and what else I need to cut.

Asha Sanaker's avatar

Hey, all. Just a few things this week. One, I just crossed over 400 folks on my total list, which is pretty thrilling. My paid list is still slowly growing, too, but it's just over a 15% conversion rate so I'm happy with that. I am needing to do more active promotion in the new year, though, and I've been thinking about Facebook ads since a lot of my readers are FB folks. Have any of you had good luck with paid ads on FB?

Also, an early shout-out, because I can't wait. A favorite author of mind, Sophie Strand, just started a Substack this week called Make Me Good Soil. Sophie is a novelist, essayist, mycologist, historian, poet, and all around brilliant woman. You should definitely check her out at: https://sophiestrand.substack.com.

And come check me out over at Let Your Life Speak if you're so inclined. A public post goes out to the whole list tomorrow and I'd love to have you join us.

Annabel Ascher's avatar

I get a lot from Facebook, but not from paid ads. I tried twice. I had it optimized for website visits. The post was about the grid going down written as a personal experience followed by a pitch for renewable energy. What I got were a pack of trolls attacking renewable energy. The metrics available in choosing an audience really don't work well. Luckily It only set me back $16.00

Jan Peppler's avatar

I have a Facebook page under the same title Finding Home and had no luck with paid ads. Tried it 3 times. But maybe my posts for those ads weren't snazzy enough or ??